# Gamergate
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 5, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596 "2014-09-05T17:43:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 21
### Author:  [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/401 "2014-09-18T21:04:54Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> [Yup, just some petty ass drama!](http://kotaku.com/bomb-threat-targeted-anita-sarkeesian-gaming-awards-la-1636032301)
Yeah, right, six months before Gamergate started someone supposedly sent in an anonymous bomb threat to an event Sarkeesian was attending, which she (who makes a meal of every little slight she gets) hasn’t mentioned until now, and which didn’t stop her turning up to the event. And it gets revealed just after that Breitbart article about the secret mailing list the forces of villainy were using to co-ordinate their evil deeds.
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> How exactly did she doxx them? The article implies that somebody named Maya actually provided the info online, and ZQ linked to it. Was it some sort of spreadsheet organized by name, address and contact info? If FYC’s personnel are so secretive, they wouldn’t have put their personal info online in the first place. FYC sounds like an organization of Chicken Littles.
Maya Kramer is from Silverstring media, a sinister cabal in gaming journalism, that most evil and covert of things: a public relations company. Maya is Zoe’s PR woman. Good Job!
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Why was his account banned? Was it banned under Twitter’s “too many people complained” policy? Which specific policy led to its banning?
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> Sarkeesian vlogs about women in video games. Is ThundefOOt a woman? Is ThundefOOt a videogame character? If not, why would Sarkeesian vlog about him? She most certainly doesn’t vlog about hashtag protected speech.
Thunderf00t is a youtube atheist and real life nuclear physicist (his last video was from a nuclear reactor, which is quite cool). He gets a ot fo death threats from fundamentalists that no-one cares about because he’s not a woman. He also criticises feminism because of its counter-factual ways. Atheists are supposed to be reasonable and empirical, after all. Hence Dawkins being on our side, and now being denounced by the Guardian.
He was banned from twitter supposedly because of a twitter mob of SJWs who spammed the report facility and got him banned. However he was never sent a notification by twitter, which would normally happen in that situation, so it’s still a bit up in the air at the moment.
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> This isn’t “stupid drama.” This is an organized campaign to terrorize and harass two women for daring to have both ovaries and an opinion.
No, it’s an organised campaign by video-game journalists to insult and abuse their customers and to silence their critics.
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Many of them worked pseudonymously. This is not uncommon in the indie scene. And if you’re trying to stay pseudonymous, you usually don’t want people to figure out who you are. Let alone where you live. Even those who go by their real name tend to keep that stuff very secretive. It’s especially problematic when the context is someone popular talking about you being a bad person, and a lot of their followers being mad at you.
Zoe Quinn isn’t her real name, you know. Nothing like it. I won’t doxx her here, though.
> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Yes, but it’s also deliberately created to troll and ridicule feminists. By being a good example of feminist character. It’s multilayered trollery, which is the best kind of course, but saying “look, look, they’re saying they’re feminists and they have a good character to show for it” is borderline disingenuous. Hell, even the groupthink decision to financially support FYC was, at heart, meant as a “fuck you” to Zoe Quinn in particular, and feminists/SJWs surrounding her in general.
4chan is a varied place. /v/ is for /v/idya games. The people there were sympathetic to FYC because they like vidya games. As self-important as you may be, not everything is about feminists.
Of course, now, moot has gone to the dark side and /v/, along with /pol/itically incorrect, and /b/, /sp/, /a/ and others are all being censored to silence Gamergate. Some think moot has gone to the SJW crowd, some think he is reacting to the alleged attempted suicide of the daughter of Gawker media’s boss, some say he’s being controlled by the NSA and DARPA, and /pol/ says he’s been a Jew all along. Ah, /pol/. Whatever the reason, there’s mass deletions going on, IP range bans, entire boards having most of their content wiped and entire countries being banned from posting. To 4chan. What is the fucking world coming to?
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Well, I didn’t watch the video. That kind of shit is _terrible_, and for every valid criticism Thunderf00t has (I really like that guy when he’s not being a prick), each time he says “professional victim” he loses me. These people got death threats. They’ve been the target of real, documented online harassment campaigns. Let’s not diminish that. Let’s not pretend that didn’t happen. Now there’s pretty fucking clear evidence that it did actually happen, and that these women suffered pretty greatly for it. No matter how much fame they’re getting, I doubt it’s worth this.
But this is how they make their living. Quinn got her “game” on Steam by faking the Wizard Chan thing. She’s claimed to be mugged to elicit donations. It’s what she did with TFYC, which she accused of being oppressive, and the Pepsi Game Jame, she played the victim and got herself more support. More Patreon donors, more twitter followers to read her begging missives, more sympathy from the gaming press. And now someone who has done nothing beyond code a single “game” has hot herself a million hits on Cracked, because pretending to be a victim, for a woman, is a money-spinner.
Sarkeesian, too. When she started her kickstarter she, once and only once, allowed comments on her Youtube video, and then closed comments when the kickstarter was over, because she knew she’d done enough to provoke a reaction. A couple of idiots she’s riled up call her a cunt and she can play the victim again. And she’s also faked harassment in the past, when she can’t just provoke it. And she’s got 150 grand out of it, so at least she’s good at fraud.
Tim Schaeffer has also recently confessed to being a professional victim who leverages any reaction he provokes into cash and sympathy, but it doesn’t work for men quite as well.
So yes, professional victims. Victims on a professional basis.
> [@Jragon](#):
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> It’s possible she aped footage for some games because of how cherry picked some of the examples are, and if she did (without permission of course) that’s wrong, however, I have an extremely hard time believing she’s intentionally duping the public.
Aped means imitated, she didn’t replicate their footage, she took footage from other peoples’ videos. Repeatedly. She also lied about games, for example the infamous Assassin game, which she claims encourages the player to beat women unconscious and drag their corpses around for sexual gratification, when in fact hurting female characters is explicitly penalised. No other footage could be found of any other player assaulting those NPCs.
Of course there is, on Youtube if you want to open your eyes to it, a video fo her saying she doesn’t play video games, isn’t a fan of video games and things that violent video games are “gross”.
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> You know she has a Master’s from York University, right? She’s written a thesis on feminist cultural issues in sci-fi and fantasy television. (And I’ve read it, it’s pretty well written, agree or disagree it’s not half-assed at all). I mean, even if I take you at your word that has been involved in pyramid schemes in the past, people generally don’t spend years, and probably money, getting a thesis-seeking Master’s just to fleece people with internet videos.
I know all about her thesis, yes. Lots of quotes. Disturbing quantities of Joss Whedon. No original thoughts. It’s nonsense. It’s called “making a man out of you”, and it’s all about how strong female characters are really male characters made into token women. It’s amazing the shit that can get you a degree these days.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/402 "2014-09-18T21:14:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> How exactly did she doxx them? The article implies that somebody named Maya actually provided the info online, and ZQ linked to it. Was it some sort of spreadsheet organized by name, address and contact info? If FYC’s personnel are so secretive, they wouldn’t have put their personal info online in the first place. FYC sounds like an organization of Chicken Littles.
Going by the image files provided by **Budget Cadet Player** , the “doxxing” in this case consists of someone finding a Facebook page where a guy says, “Very excited that this project I’m working on with Fine Young Capitalists is nearly done,” and tweeting about it to Quinn.
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### Author:  [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/403 "2014-09-18T21:20:15Z")
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Yeah, right, six months before Gamergate started someone supposedly sent in an anonymous bomb threat to an event Sarkeesian was attending, which she (who makes a meal of every little slight she gets) hasn’t mentioned until now,
You seem to be implying that this did not happen. Tell it to the SFPD. You know, the real SFPD, not the pretend police your #gamergate police seem to be only able to contact.
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### Author:  [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/404 "2014-09-18T21:23:19Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> As I stated before, I think this article suffers from fake-evenhandedness. The two sides really aren’t equal, any more than creationists and biologists are equal. It suggests that on the one hand, harrassment shouldn’t happen, but on the other hand, maybe we should have some empathy for guys who miss the days when gaming was a boy’s club.
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> No, actually, we shouldn’t have empathy for them, any more than we need to have empathy for folks who pine for the days of Jim Crow.
Those people don’t exist. There is no-one wanting to get women out of video game playing or development. These people just don’t exist. It’s not fake even-handedness, it’s simple libel.
This is why we’ve been trying to focus on the likes of Leigh Alexander, who has been harassing young female journalists, threatening to destroy those who disagree with her and, bizarrely, speaking about her desire to commit violence against “hood” and “ghetto” men. No-one in the GG movement cares about Zoe anymore, no matter how much she wishes it was otherwise. Hence she was rechristened “Literally Who”, by the #gamergate movement, and changed her twitter handle to “Dr Literally Who” to keep seeking attention.
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> I don’t know how much of this graphic-speak is just nonsense (Figure 1 is pretty much nonsense as proof of anything) but if true it seems that maybe [4chan is sick of /v/](http://imgur.com/gallery/G0eIGQx).
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> Like I said, despite its laughably twisted victim complex I’d take everything they say with a grain of salt the size of a small Ocean Liner.
You could just go to 4chan and see. /v/ has a sticky, something of an oddity for 4chan, which explicitly bans all mention of gamergate. Thereunder are a load of threads about Gamergate, which will eventually be deleted. There are some other threads on /v/ too. For example one which starts with this OP:
> [@](#):
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> What games let you murder mexicans?
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/405 "2014-09-18T21:31:08Z")
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Those people don’t exist. There is no-one wanting to get women out of video game playing or development. These people just don’t exist. It’s not fake even-handedness, it’s simple libel.
Oh, I daresay there are lots of people who get migraines at the idea of women even _existing_, in any role other than the submissive and hot girlfriends who they totally deserve to have and would if it weren’t for all those feminist bitches ruining things…
Anyway, the kerfuffle stems from a natural selection process where the competition is to be crude and cruel, rather than smart.
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### Author:  [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/406 "2014-09-18T21:34:43Z")
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Yeah, right, six months before Gamergate started someone supposedly sent in an anonymous bomb threat to an event Sarkeesian was attending, which she (who makes a meal of every little slight she gets) hasn’t mentioned until now, and which didn’t stop her turning up to the event…
Oh, I get it, you’re a conspiracy theorist. Only instead of lizard people or Jews, you think it’s women who are out to get you! Awesome.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/407 "2014-09-18T22:15:21Z")
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> No, it’s an organised campaign by video-game journalists to insult and abuse their customers and to silence their critics.
Speaking as a game journalist, you give us way too much credit. A real conspiracy among game journalists would fall apart in three seconds because someone would blab instantly.
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### Author:  [@Krouget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krouget)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/408 "2014-09-18T22:47:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> This article was posted way back on the first page: 🙂
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> As I stated before, I think this article suffers from fake-evenhandedness. The two sides really aren’t equal, any more than creationists and biologists are equal. It suggests that on the one hand, harrassment shouldn’t happen, but on the other hand, maybe we should have some empathy for guys who miss the days when gaming was a boy’s club.
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> No, actually, we shouldn’t have empathy for them, any more than we need to have empathy for folks who pine for the days of Jim Crow.
I didn’t read it as fake-evenhandendess, I read it as an attempt to focus on the more objective events and arguments, minus the noise. Some of those we may openly object to, but beneath the shouting and yelling, there are some legitimate points and key instances which took place. Also, how we address each other.
It’s certainly fine if you read it differently than I did, but after reading, I didn’t walk away with the idea that I should accept harassment, or even find two sides as equal (in actuality, and in following this entire thing, I’d say there are more than two sides, and can count at least five, some existing as sub-groups he alluded to). In the final two parts of his piece, he actually suggests that the #GG side needs to watch who they side with, and suggests multiple alternative options for addressing their issues. Ultimately, I more understood that the entirety of this exists as a very complex sequence of events, filled with rhetoric, loaded trigger words, and lack of trust (as described), followed by a growing trend towards a sisyphean/politicized discussion. As a person who tends to lean more left, I especially agree with his point that the conservative opportunists entering the discussion, are among the most dangerous of all.
But, I’m sure it’s a matter of perspective at the greater level (and to generalize for a moment)-- some primarily view this as an extension of a greater social debate, this time manifesting itself on the battlefield of video games, while others see it as it’s own isolated issue within the gaming community, with various elements leaking into the greater “uninformed” media (resurfacing familiar parallels to past debates, such as attempted correlations between video games and violence). Personally and rather obviously, I think it’s effectively both, and don’t see either as inherently _wrong_, but I do think this author is on a fair path.
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### Author:  [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/409 "2014-09-19T00:19:13Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> Going by the image files provided by **Budget Cadet Player** , the “doxxing” in this case consists of someone finding a Facebook page where a guy says, “Very excited that this project I’m working on with Fine Young Capitalists is nearly done,” and tweeting about it to Quinn.
:eek:
My Og, are ALL game developers this thinskinned?
**blindboyard** is like a soap opera writer in l33t speak. I’ve never seen anybody so colorfully paranoid. To him, ZQ is some evil overlord with a cabal of overzealous online assassins who can crush innocent internet startups with a snap of her slutty fingers.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/410 "2014-09-19T00:24:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> :eek:
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> My Og, are ALL game developers this thinskinned?
I’m not, and how DARE you imply that I am!
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/411 "2014-09-19T00:24:28Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The point is, Quinn criticized them, and that’s absolutely valid. SHe’s allowed to criticize them. She’s allowed to think their work is exploitative. She’s allowed to find their policies transphobic.
And the local insane asylum patient is “allowed” to think the aliens are coming to get him. In this case, Quinn was rightfully ridiculed and mocked, and she ran away crying misogyny yet again, because it’s the only card she had left to play. Now that we know how much her disgusting private and professional conduct undermines her claims that she’s some icon of feminism, she can’t even do that anymore 🙂
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/412 "2014-09-19T00:25:04Z")
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Yeah, right, six months before Gamergate started someone supposedly sent in an anonymous bomb threat to an event Sarkeesian was attending, which she (who makes a meal of every little slight she gets) hasn’t mentioned until now, and which didn’t stop her turning up to the event. And it gets revealed just after that Breitbart article about the secret mailing list the forces of villainy were using to co-ordinate their evil deeds.
More Gish Gallop.
> [@](#):
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> Maya Kramer is from Silverstring media, a sinister cabal in gaming journalism, that most evil and covert of things: a public relations company. Maya is Zoe’s PR woman. Good Job!
I’m certain you think you have a point, since you’re a goddamned idiot who thinks things like that are points. There’s no point there.
> [@](#):
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> Thunderf00t is a youtube atheist and real life nuclear physicist (his last video was from a nuclear reactor, which is quite cool). He gets a ot fo death threats from fundamentalists that no-one cares about because he’s not a woman. He also criticises feminism because of its counter-factual ways. Atheists are supposed to be reasonable and empirical, after all. Hence Dawkins being on our side, and now being denounced by the Guardian.
:rolleyes: An empiricist would immediately ask herself, “Is this point valid? It predicts that virtually no atheists are on Quinn’s side. Let me test this prediction.” Since you’re less of a reasonable empiricist and more of a dumbshit asshole, of course, that didn’t occur to you.
> [@](#):
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> He was banned from twitter supposedly because of a twitter mob of SJWs who spammed the report facility and got him banned. However he was never sent a notification by twitter, which would normally happen in that situation, so it’s still a bit up in the air at the moment.
“Supposedly” being the key word here–you have no evidence.
More Gish Gallop.
> [@](#):
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> No, it’s an organised campaign by video-game journalists to insult and abuse their customers and to silence their critics.
No evidence. More Gish Gallop.
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> Zoe Quinn isn’t her real name, you know. Nothing like it. I won’t doxx her here, though.
Irrelevant.
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> 4chan is a varied place. /v/ is for /v/idya games. The people there were sympathetic to FYC because they like vidya games. As self-important as you may be, not everything is about feminists.
It isn’t for the rest of us. FOr your pathetic self it clearly is.
> [@](#):
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> Of course, now, moot has gone to the dark side and /v/, along with /pol/itically incorrect, and /b/, /sp/, /a/ and others are all being censored to silence Gamergate. Some think moot has gone to the SJW crowd, some think he is reacting to the alleged attempted suicide of the daughter of Gawker media’s boss, some say he’s being controlled by the NSA and DARPA, and /pol/ says he’s been a Jew all along. Ah, /pol/. Whatever the reason, there’s mass deletions going on, IP range bans, entire boards having most of their content wiped and entire countries being banned from posting. To 4chan. What is the fucking world coming to?
What it’s coming to is that you and your ilk are too ugly, too vicious, too poisonous **for 4chan**. Think about that for a bit. You’re such an asshole even 4chan can’t stand you.
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> But this is how they make their living. Quinn got her “game” on Steam by faking the Wizard Chan thing. She’s claimed to be mugged to elicit donations. It’s what she did with TFYC, which she accused of being oppressive, and the Pepsi Game Jame, she played the victim and got herself more support. More Patreon donors, more twitter followers to read her begging missives, more sympathy from the gaming press. And now someone who has done nothing beyond code a single “game” has hot herself a million hits on Cracked, because pretending to be a victim, for a woman, is a money-spinner.
More Gish gallop–although clearly your ride is tired, because you’re offering some of the discredited horseshit you’ve offered before.
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> Sarkeesian, too. When she started her kickstarter she, once and only once, allowed comments on her Youtube video, and then closed comments when the kickstarter was over, because she knew she’d done enough to provoke a reaction. A couple of idiots she’s riled up call her a cunt and she can play the victim again. And she’s also faked harassment in the past, when she can’t just provoke it. And she’s got 150 grand out of it, so at least she’s good at fraud.
More, you guessed it, Gish Gallop.
> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Those people don’t exist. There is no-one wanting to get women out of video game playing or development. These people just don’t exist. It’s not fake even-handedness, it’s simple libel.
Bullshit. I’ve met them in D&D circles.
> [@](#):
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> This is why we’ve been trying to focus on the likes of Leigh Alexander, who has been harassing young female journalists, threatening to destroy those who disagree with her and, bizarrely, speaking about her desire to commit violence against “hood” and “ghetto” men. No-one in the GG movement cares about Zoe anymore, no matter how much she wishes it was otherwise. Hence she was rechristened “Literally Who”, by the #gamergate movement, and changed her twitter handle to “Dr Literally Who” to keep seeking attention.
This is an interesting spin on the Gish gallop. You and your hideous trollkin clan have been trying to focus on a new target because you’ve so clearly been shown to be poisonous liars in the case of Quinn, so clearly that, again, 4chan has turned on you. 4chan, ferchrissake! You’ve got a new target because you lost.
And if Quinn won’t let you move on, good on her. You should reap the consequences of your ugliness. Maybe if your nose is smeared in your mess, you won’t shit in the living room any more.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/413 "2014-09-19T00:32:49Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> This isn’t “stupid drama.” This is an organized campaign to terrorize and harass two women for daring to have both ovaries and an opinion.
This is a campaign to embarrass and ridicule two women who say stupid things, and the “journalists” who give them cover, because they agree with their imbecilic political positions.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/414 "2014-09-19T00:34:36Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> This is a campaign to embarrass and ridicule two women who say stupid things, and the “journalists” who give them cover, because they agree with their imbecilic political positions.
Check out the new asshole–four posts, all about how much he hates Zoe Quinn. So glad he joined the board and is contributing so much! Blindboyard, you must be proud.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/415 "2014-09-19T00:40:00Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> This article was posted way back on the first page: 🙂
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> As I stated before, I think this article suffers from fake-evenhandedness. The two sides really aren’t equal, any more than creationists and biologists are equal.
True, one “side” is composed of gamers who didn’t give a shit about the amateurish political movement of fake feminists, until it was repeatedly shoved in their faces by professional victims and their “journalist” enablers. If a bunch of oppression-hungry fanatics insert themselves into a hobby / movement that doesn’t want to listen to their garbage, and constantly attacks them for not heeding their temper tantrums, they don’t get to whine about it when that hobby / movement pushes back.
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It suggests that on the one hand, harrassment shouldn’t happen, but on the other hand, maybe we should have some empathy for guys who miss the days when gaming was a boy’s club.
No they miss the days when frauds like Sarkeesian and Quinn were laughed out of the room, instead of being taken seriously. Too bad Jack Thompson didn’t have a uterus.
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> No, actually, we shouldn’t have empathy for them, any more than we need to have empathy for folks who pine for the days of Jim Crow.
Yes, totally the same thing.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/416 "2014-09-19T00:47:25Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> This is an interesting spin on the Gish gallop. You and your hideous trollkin clan have been trying to focus on a new target because you’ve so clearly been shown to be poisonous liars in the case of Quinn, so clearly that, again, 4chan has turned on you. 4chan, ferchrissake! You’ve got a new target because you lost.
Sure we have. A story that would’ve been gone in two days is now entering month two, Zoe Quinn is finished in the court of public opinion, and the toxicity of social justice twats and the corruption and collusion of games journalists who hate the audience that pay their salaries have been exposed for all to see. And it won’t be ending anytime soon, no matter what the fraud does 🙂
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> And if Quinn won’t let you move on, good on her. You should reap the consequences of your ugliness. Maybe if your nose is smeared in your mess, you won’t shit in the living room any more.
It’s not up to her and it never was. But she can always call us names, that’ll sure be effective 😉
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### Author:  [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/417 "2014-09-19T00:53:42Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Sure we have. A story that would’ve been gone in two days is now entering month two, Zoe Quinn is finished in the court of public opinion
Which is why Wil Wheaton and Tim Schafer are having friendly Twitter conversations with her now, right?
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### Author:  [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/418 "2014-09-19T00:56:38Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Which is why Wil Wheaton and Tim Schafer are having friendly Twitter conversations with her now, right?
Butbutbutbut :splutter:
ETA: Also, I absofuckinglutely guarantee more people know who Zoe is now. I for one am more positively disposed toward her after this kerfuffle. If only because of **blindboyard**.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/419 "2014-09-19T00:59:14Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> This is a campaign to embarrass and ridicule two women who say stupid things, and the “journalists” who give them cover, because they agree with their imbecilic political positions.
Please, I think Sarkeesian is a moron but I’m not some kind of knuckle-dragger that believes she should be killed for having a stupid opinion.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/420 "2014-09-19T01:48:05Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Please, I think Sarkeesian is a moron but I’m not some kind of knuckle-dragger that believes she should be killed for having a stupid opinion.
That’s nice, now be sure to let me know when I suggested she should be.
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