# Gamergate
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 5, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596 "2014-09-05T17:43:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/642 "2014-09-26T01:26:21Z")
My favorite thing in today’s Cracked article was
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> If you want to campaign against corruption in video game journalism, fantastic! You’ve chosen the most luxurious righteousness on Earth. But joining #gamergate is like marching under Sauron’s flag because you’re worried about Minas Tirith’s feudal inheritance of rulership. Even if you’re claiming more enlightened motivations, you’re charging with a stinking mob intent on ruining everything, unleashed by a raging asshole.
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### Author:  [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/643 "2014-09-26T01:44:42Z")
So, what does one do when someone you like and who shares your hobby is on the wrong side of this issue? Being on the wrong side of this one is an indicator of conspiracism, and there’s little chance of a conspiracy theorist ever mending. From what I’ve seen, impressionable teens aside, they only get worse.
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/644 "2014-09-26T01:47:54Z")
I actually took a look at the original post by Quinn’s ex that started the whole thing. I felt dirty doing it but at this point I don’t think I can hurt her more than she has been hurt and I really wanted to try to understand the situation.
Well, I didn’t get too far before I started to regret it. What a pathetic piece of shit that post and its author was.
Airing so many loads of private, dirty laundry—and every word of it utterly uninteresting to anyone with a life—with such an air of high-handed self-righteousness.
There’s no justification for it. And there’s even less justification for the mob that then gleefully tore down Quinn’s life and threatened her, her job, and her home.
I hope the people who perpetrated those outrages get tossed in jail, like the ones who did it to Sarkeesian.
Who are these people who are allowed to exercise so much power when they have no sense of proportion, responsibility, or maturity?
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/645 "2014-09-26T01:50:12Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> So, what does one do when someone you like and who shares your hobby is on the wrong side of this issue? Being on the wrong side of this one is an indicator of conspiracism, and there’s little chance of a conspiracy theorist ever mending. From what I’ve seen, impressionable teens aside, they only get worse.
I don’t know what you’re asking. Someone who supports what was fond to Quinn—not to mention participated in it—is not someone I would continue associating with.
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### Author:  [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/646 "2014-09-26T02:22:26Z")
Well, nobody I know has claimed to have participated in trolling Quinn or Sarkeesian. I’m talking more about the sort of person who would find Thunderf00t intelligent, I guess. More the sort of person who would agree that stalking and harassment are 100% wrong but would use the initialism SJW.
You know, the sort of person who has benignly stupid opinions but that you like for other reasons. Like how I don’t unfollow everyone who openly believes in astrology so long as they mostly talk about more interesting topics.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/647 "2014-09-26T02:35:03Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> You know, the sort of person who has benignly stupid opinions but that you like for other reasons. Like how I don’t unfollow everyone who openly believes in astrology so long as they mostly talk about more interesting topics.
I know what you mean. Evil Avatar has been strongly pushing the GamerGate thing (specifically the “corruption in journalism” angle, but also the “ZQ is just as bad” angle a little) and I feel terrible about ever having liked that site. I know the admins were a little jerky, but I never expected them to support a cause that was formed to harass an innocent woman.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/648 "2014-09-26T02:39:33Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Cracked really has it in for gamergate, which is a good thing.
I am really proud of Cracked. Normally, if you have any passing familiarity with what they’re writing about, you can spot the holes and exaggerations a mile away (my go-to article for this [6 Reasons We’re In Another ‘Book-Burning’ Period in History](http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history.html), which is just a mess of half-truths and exaggerations). But they’ve been right on the money with all this GamerGate stuff.
No lies. No exaggerations. No bullshit. Just, “here’s some shitty people and these are the reasons why they’re shitty.” You gotta respect that.
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/649 "2014-09-26T03:34:17Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> No lies. No exaggerations. No bullshit.
Right. Because shill Twitter accounts (which are used for everything, ever) and cartoon porn “prove humanity is doomed” :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/650 "2014-09-26T03:52:30Z")
> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Honestly, women who go “Well I don’t need feminism because I have all these opportunities open to me, I’ve never had to deal with sexual harassment and apart from maybe a few issues…” remind me of those lummoxes who say “Why do I need unions ? I’ve got paid leave, safe working conditions, health insurance and…”
> Yeah, we know you do. Now say “Thanks”. Now get fighting to _keep it that way_, if nothing else.
Oh yeah? Which part did you play in getting women the right to vote? I didn’t realize you were over a hundred years old, and not just another worthless narcissist taking credit for other people’s hard work.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/651 "2014-09-26T03:59:09Z")
> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I actually took a look at the original post by Quinn’s ex that started the whole thing. I felt dirty doing it but at this point I don’t think I can hurt her more than she has been hurt and I really wanted to try to understand the situation.
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> Well, I didn’t get too far before I started to regret it. What a pathetic piece of shit that post and its author was.
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> Airing so many loads of private, dirty laundry—and every word of it utterly uninteresting to anyone with a life—with such an air of high-handed self-righteousness.
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> There’s no justification for it.
Be honest here. The real reason you’re upset about it is because it completely and irrevocably invalidates Quinn’s claims to being any kind of feminist, and reveals her for the hypocrite, fraud, abuser, and (according to her own publicly stated standards) rapist that she is.
> [@Acsenray](#):
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> And there’s even less justification for the mob that then gleefully tore down Quinn’s life and threatened her, her job, and her home.
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> I hope the people who perpetrated those outrages get tossed in jail, like the ones who did it to Sarkeesian.
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> Who are these people who are allowed to exercise so much power when they have no sense of proportion, responsibility, or maturity?
Sniff, that was really beautiful, thank goodness poor, oppressed Zoe Quinn has a big, powerful gentleman to protect her from the evil monsters online who say mean things about her. BTW, when should we expect your moral outrage over the pro-gamergaters who have received death threats and been doxxed? Go ahead and put it right here ----------------------\>
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/652 "2014-09-26T04:00:30Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Really, the term “SJW” is one whose use says a lot more about the user than about its object. It’s an offensively stupid term.
Which beautifully matches the stupidity spewed out by SJWs on a daily basis.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/653 "2014-09-26T04:01:37Z")
> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I don’t know what you’re asking. Someone who supports what was fond to Quinn—not to mention participated in it—is not someone I would continue associating with.
Their loss, I’m sure.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/654 "2014-09-26T04:02:44Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I know what you mean. Evil Avatar has been strongly pushing the GamerGate thing (specifically the “corruption in journalism” angle, but also the “ZQ is just as bad” angle a little) and I feel terrible about ever having liked that site.
Hopefully you get through this traumatic time without cutting yourself.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/655 "2014-09-26T04:04:26Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I am really proud of Cracked. Normally, if you have any passing familiarity with what they’re writing about, you can spot the holes and exaggerations a mile away (my go-to article for this [6 Reasons We’re In Another ‘Book-Burning’ Period in History](http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history.html), which is just a mess of half-truths and exaggerations). But they’ve been right on the money with all this GamerGate stuff.
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> No lies. No exaggerations. No bullshit. Just, “here’s some shitty people and these are the reasons why they’re shitty.” You gotta respect that.
You sure do. This kind of garbage is red meat for gamergate, and yet another thing keeping them alive. I wonder if they’ve sent thank-you cards to cracked yet 🙂
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### Author:  [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/656 "2014-09-26T04:14:53Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> You sure do. This kind of garbage is red meat for gamergate, and yet another thing keeping them alive. I wonder if they’ve sent thank-you cards to cracked yet 🙂
Can I ask you a serious question: Do you ever just sit down and wonder what the fuck went wrong with you?
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### Author:  [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/657 "2014-09-26T05:22:54Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Oh yeah? Which part did you play in getting women the right to vote? I didn’t realize you were over a hundred years old, and not just another worthless narcissist taking credit for other people’s hard work.
Seriously dude, you need to work on your trolling. This is amateur, “PUT ME ON IGNORE !!!” stuff. 1/20, see me after class.
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### Author:  [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/658 "2014-09-26T05:29:51Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Oh yeah? Which part did you play in getting women the right to vote? I didn’t realize you were over a hundred years old, and not just another worthless narcissist taking credit for other people’s hard work.
My god, you are full of stupid.
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### Author:  [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/659 "2014-09-26T05:42:59Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Sniff, that was really beautiful, thank goodness poor, oppressed Zoe Quinn has a big, powerful gentleman to protect her from the evil monsters online who say mean things about her.
And here we see the “white knight” trope being deployed. This is a standard tactic with Men’s Justice Warriors to try to paint any support of feminism by a man as a calculated attempt to curry favor with women.
Seriously, dude, your playbook is crap. Try something else.
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### Author:  [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/660 "2014-09-26T06:07:18Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> And here we see the “white knight” trope being deployed. This is a standard tactic with Men’s Justice Warriors to try to paint any support of feminism by a man as a calculated attempt to curry favor with women.
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> Seriously, dude, your playbook is crap. Try something else.
Aw, did Anita Sarkeesian teach you about that trope? How adorable 🙂
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### Author:  [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/661 "2014-09-26T06:09:19Z")
I’ll confess to having never heard the term “SJW” until this thread and actually had to look it up.
Judging by the tone, I think the term along with “white knight” while it potentially may refer to a real phenomenon that deserves criticism says more about the user than the accused.
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