# Gamergate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 5, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596 "2014-09-05T17:43:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1162 "2014-10-22T11:11:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Far from dying, gamers are thriving. They’re also expanding, and coming to include new types of people. That’s the source of this whole brouhaha. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1163 "2014-10-22T17:50:37Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’ve got no problem recognizing that an overlap exists between gamers and men’s-rights-type assholes, thus it not being accurate to describe this as solely a “gamer” thing. Being a “gamer” does not mean that the “gamers” can not be any other type of thing. Gamers include the 95 year old lady in a wheelchair playing Wii bowling to a 5 year old playing Pokemom to the feminist-men-hating assholes. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1164 "2014-10-22T17:52:27Z")
From [Clickhole](http://www.clickhole.com/article/summary-gamergate-movement-we-will-immediately-cha-1241?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook): “In order to clarify their message, members of Gamergate have seen to it that any individual who unfairly singles out the violent and bigoted aspects of the movement for criticism immediately becomes the target of sustained online harassment.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1165 "2014-10-22T21:22:11Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Being a “gamer” does not mean that the “gamers” can not be any other type of thing. Gamers include the 95 year old lady in a wheelchair playing Wii bowling to a 5 year old playing Pokemom to the feminist-men-hating assholes. That you misread my post (and it’s not like it was at all cryptic) somehow fails to surprise me since I’ve come to accept that you’re kind of dumb and prone to say any fool thing that comes to mind as long as it’s contrary for the sake of contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1166 "2014-10-23T01:09:22Z")
…this blog post from Felicia Day is both brilliant and heartbreaking. > **[The Only Thing I Have To Say About Gamer Gate](https://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate)** > > I had a day off this weekend from shooting Supernatural, and I was walking around downtown Vancouver on Saturday, sampling all the artisan coffee I could get my throat around. At one point I saw a... And predictably, not long after posting, someone posted her home address. [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Lrdebkq.png "These people have no decency at all. Felicia Day posts about being afraid of...") ](https://imgur.com/Lrdebkq) ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1167 "2014-10-23T01:16:19Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …this blog post from Felicia Day is both brilliant and heartbreaking. > > [Felicia's Melange — The Only Thing I Have To Say About Gamer Gate](http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate) > > And predictably, not long after posting, someone posted her home address. > > [These people have no decency at all. Felicia Day posts about being afraid of GamerGate, gets doxxed in comments. - Imgur](http://imgur.com/Lrdebkq) Oh my god, the comment immediately after the doxxing thread (“no one from gamergate has doxxed anyone”) is comedy gold in an incredibly depressing sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1168 "2014-10-23T02:58:47Z")
The tumblr responses on that post (which seems to have had Disqus comments removed, probably due to the doxxing post) include a bunch of other cases of the gators being entirely up their own asses. My…ah…‘favourite’ is claiming that walking across the street to avoid people you’re afraid might do you harm is WAY worse than threatening rape and murder. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1169 "2014-10-23T03:30:51Z")
Do we actually have Gamergate defenders on this board? I’d… have thought better of us. Not reading the entire 20 pages, but thanks to the people who are spending the time to smack this nonsense down. I might have read it in this thread, where a poster asked two boys about the gamergate thing, and one of them started to kind of defend gamergate, and the other one just stopped the other and said “that’s fucked up”. So I thought I’d just chime in to give some moral support. This shit is fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1170 "2014-10-23T05:50:31Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …this blog post from Felicia Day is both brilliant and heartbreaking. > > [Felicia's Melange — The Only Thing I Have To Say About Gamer Gate](http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate) > > And predictably, not long after posting, someone posted her home address. > > [These people have no decency at all. Felicia Day posts about being afraid of GamerGate, gets doxxed in comments. - Imgur](http://imgur.com/Lrdebkq) Thanks for making me want to throw up. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1171 "2014-10-23T17:01:55Z")
I guess I’m a “gamer” of sorts, and I’m just learning about “Gamergate” now. I’ve only read a few things about it, so I don’t claim to know the whole story. What I do know is that, if the video game industry wants to thrive, we need to really except, and embrace, diversity in gaming. I think people should be excited about women and minorities expressing themselves through gaming. I don’t think that means that what’s currently available will have to change in order to cater to everyone, I believe it’s just that consumers will have more options. Games are getting boring and repetitive. We shouldn’t discourage more diversity if we want games to thrive. We’re limiting ourselves if we do that. Video game journalism is mostly a joke IMHO. It hasn’t evolved into what it should be, which is covering and critiquing a very serious business. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1172 "2014-10-23T17:03:51Z")
The fuck ? Even Felicia motherfucking Day isn’t sacred to these people ? And they call themselves gamers ?! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1173 "2014-10-23T17:16:58Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > The fuck ? Even Felicia motherfucking Day isn’t sacred to these people ? And they call themselves gamers ?! :mad: There is apparently very little you can do in terms of visibility, displayed knowledge, personal investedness, and direct hands-on experience in terms of being included as a “gamer” that isn’t undone in some people’s minds if you don’t have a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1174 "2014-10-23T17:43:58Z")
Well, I was waiting for this… > [@](#): > > Apparently beleaguered by a flood of global “threats and harsh words,” the CEO of online game download service GamersGate pushed out a press release this morning to explain that they’re not affiliated with hashtag movement GamerGate. > > Calling the controversy “fierce and infected,” CEO Theodore Bergqvist said that his company is not part of the “controversy whatsoever.” > > ``` > *Announcement: GAMERSGATE.COM is NOT Gamergate! > > As many of you are aware of, recently there has been a fierce and infected discussion about sexism as well as journalistic ethics in the gaming industry. We've received threats and harsh words from around the world and want to make it clear for everyone that Gamersgate.com is not part of this controversy whatsoever. > > Next year Gamersgate.com celebrate our 10th anniversary and since start we have been selling games for download. We are one of the original download platforms and we do our best to support gamers so that they can buy and download games to good prices. Anytime, anywhere. > > Theodore Bergqvist. CEO - Gamersgate.com* > > ``` I’m not posting this as any sort of “this side is being as bad as that side!” thing, but rather I was just waiting for poor ole Gamersgate to catch flack over the unfortunate naming. Gamersgate already suffered a multi-day DDOS attack last week which is thought to have been connected to #Gamergate. Oh, quote was from Polygon, I believe. Already closed the tab. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1175 "2014-10-23T17:46:38Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Video game journalism is mostly a joke IMHO. It hasn’t evolved into what it should be, which is covering and critiquing a very serious business. You’re not looking hard enough. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1176 "2014-10-23T17:56:17Z")
Could you recommend anything Justin\_Bailey? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1177 "2014-10-23T17:57:57Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Gamersgate already suffered a multi-day DDOS attack last week which is thought to have been connected to #Gamergate. I’ll walk this back pre-emptively by saying that while the DDOS attack last week was very real, connections between the two are theoretical. No one has said “We attacked them because…” ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1178 "2014-10-23T18:34:10Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Could you recommend anything Justin\_Bailey? Leigh Alexander of Gamasutra is a good start. I like Polygon’s editorials as well (especially Ben Kuchera) and USgamer does some surprisingly good stuff too. Surprising, because I don’t think most gamers have any idea that Eurogamer launched a US site a few years ago. I also like Chris Kohler of Wired and Kyle Orland of Ars Technica, but both also dabble in pretty mainstream news/previews/reviews reporting. So if you’re looking for somebody who goes deep they might be more hit and miss. And if you’re looking for business discussion, you can’t beat Rob Fahey of GamesIndustry.biz. But he can be infuriating sometimes, so be ready to get mad. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1179 "2014-10-23T19:35:54Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > There is apparently very little you can do in terms of visibility, displayed knowledge, personal investedness, and direct hands-on experience in terms of being included as a “gamer” that isn’t undone in some people’s minds if you don’t have a dick. Heh. Tragically insightful post over on another forum : > [@](#): > > This is Chris Kluwe. > > [PIC] > > He’s a former kicker for the Minnesota Vikings, known for self-identifying as a nerd and a gamer and for being anti-homophobic to the point some people think the Vikings dropped him for that reason. > > A few days ago, he posted a blog that has been making the rounds where he referred to the people behind #GamersGate as “basement-dwelling, cheetos-huffing, poopsock-sniffing douchepistols”. > This is Felicia Day. > > [PIC] > > She’s an actress and writer famous for geek-culture roles, including being in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and writing and acting for The Guild, a web-based series about MMO-players. > > A few days ago, she posted a blog that has been making the rounds where she said that the #GamersGate crisis has made her afraid to treat gamers she doesn’t know as immediate friends linked by culture. > Guess which one of them was doxxed within a few hours? > > the answer is misogyny ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1180 "2014-10-23T20:01:19Z")
Extra Credits posted this on facebook: > [@](#): > > Extra Credits has never been a show that races to cover recent news. When we comment, we want to bring perspective and constructive critique. > > But the GamerGate situation has moved far beyond the potential for constructive anything. It is misguided. It is harmful. It is wrong. > > Hate founded this movement, then deliberately cloaked itself in a righteous cause, a banner of “media ethics” or “anti-bullying.” This banner invited sympathizers who believed the cause was just. But nothing can or could erase the hatred at its core. > > The immeasurable pain this has caused to people and the immense distance it has set back the industry crosses an irredeemable line. Social media is not ideal to explore the details of this issue that have arisen in the last few months, but let’s make our position clear. > > We stand with the creators who push this medium to new heights. We stand for an open and diverse discourse. We stand against GamerGate. Yeah, I think we’re done here. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/1181 "2014-10-24T04:29:10Z")
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