# Gamergate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 5, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596 "2014-09-05T17:43:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 217
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596/217 "2014-09-08T19:38:15Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > Can you please explain what this is about? \*\*Jophiel \*\*would like to discuss how sometimes indie games are praised more for what they attempt than for the quality of their execution. He believes that Quinn’s game \*Depression Quest \*is an example of this, and is annoyed that any attempt to start a discussion along those lines is being drowned out by the people who are talking about her harassment. However, I would say that having the sort of discussion that he wants to have is impossible at this point. The well is too thoroughly poisoned. GamerGate only exists as a story outside the narrow boundaries of the indie game scene because of Zoe Quinn’s harassment. Otherwise most people never would have heard of it at all. If \*\*Jophiel \*\*is actually interested in discussing the indie game scene and how games (worthy or not) are promoted within it, I would urge him to start a thread in the Game Room using a less-toxic example. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gamergate/697596)._