# Games Cops Play (With Stolen Nude Cellphone Pics) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543 "2014-11-03T18:55:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/21 "2014-11-03T23:20:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The best way to avoid your naked pictures being stolen is to not have naked pictures. The best way to deal with cops who break the law is to fire them then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/22 "2014-11-03T23:41:11Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > **Smapti** , I commend you on your restraint. You managed to wait a full 12 responses before blaming the victim. And it only took six posts to remind everyone what a sycophantic idiot he is. Sadly, that’s not his best. When the Cop Bat Signal goes off, I’ve seen him coming in here to defend their besmirched honor as early as post two. It’s quite impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/23 "2014-11-04T00:07:55Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > The best way to deal with cops who break the law is to fire them then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/24 "2014-11-04T00:16:41Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > How exactly does this forwarding of pictures work? Wouldn’t there be a record or some kind of electronic trail? My email certainly keeps track of all outgoing mail. Do texts not do this? According to [one of the followup stories](http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/CHP-officer-charged-in-theft-of-women-s-cell-5861964.php), the swapped photos were indeed traced to other cops, but they’re off the hook while Harrington takes the fall for everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/25 "2014-11-04T00:20:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And don’t tell people they should lock their doors, either Good news – [Apple and Google are rolling out new and improved doorlocks](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29276955). As noted above, some of the cops are getting publicly butthurt over the prospect of having to find their pr0n on the Net like the rest of the Teeming Millions. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/26 "2014-11-04T00:31:35Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Good news – [Apple and Google are rolling out new and improved doorlocks](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29276955). As noted above, some of the cops are getting publicly butthurt over the prospect of having to find their pr0n on the Net like the rest of the Teeming Millions. 😛 This wouldn’t help with cases like this one, though. The woman’s phone was locked, but she gave the officer her password so he could retrieve a contact number for her. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/27 "2014-11-04T00:36:13Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Good news – [Apple and Google are rolling out new and improved doorlocks](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29276955). Yes, you’ve made your pro-crime stance quite clear in these threads, no need to keep restating it. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/28 "2014-11-04T00:38:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Yes, you’ve made your pro-crime stance quite clear in these threads, no need to keep restating it. My irony meter has just exploded. Does anyone have a spare I can borrow? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/29 "2014-11-04T00:42:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Yes, you’ve made your pro-crime stance quite clear in these threads, no need to keep restating it. Goddamn, you’re an idiot. You do realize that stealing someone’s personal data is a crime, right? Which is exactly what these doorlocks are supposed to _prevent_? Making it more difficult for criminals (even if those criminals happen to be cops) to access your records is a positive thing to everyone but the most fascistic. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/30 "2014-11-04T00:49:11Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Goddamn, you’re an idiot. You do realize that stealing someone’s personal data is a crime, right? Which is exactly what these doorlocks are supposed to _prevent_? Making it more difficult for criminals (even if those criminals happen to be cops) to access your records is a positive thing to everyone but the most fascistic. You will note that the chief selling point in the article above, according to Apple itself, is that _the government_ won’t be able to force them to give up your data. I.e. the people who potentially have a lawful _right_ to insist on having access to it. The only people who these “improved doorlocks” benefit are criminals who don’t want to get caught. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/31 "2014-11-04T00:51:27Z")
And people who have sensitive data on their phones will be able to prevent police from arbitrarily downloading the contents of a phone during routine traffic stops. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/32 "2014-11-04T00:54:45Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > And people who have sensitive data on their phones will be able to prevent police from arbitrarily downloading the contents of a phone during routine traffic stops. Not if you give the cops your password, it won’t. Which is what happened in this story. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/33 "2014-11-04T01:01:19Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > This wouldn’t help with cases like this one, though. The woman’s phone was locked, but she gave the officer her password so he could retrieve a contact number for her. As stories like this become better known, fewer people will make that mistake. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/34 "2014-11-04T01:02:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Not if you give the cops your password, it won’t. > > Which is what happened in this story. **Smapti** ’s “brain” approaches short-circuit. “The best way to avoid having your sensitive data stolen is to not give cops your password. No wait, the best way to avoid altercations with police is to abide by every one of their requests without question. No wait…argghh!” ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/35 "2014-11-04T01:07:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > As stories like this become better known, fewer people will make that mistake. Unfortunately, people in this situation don’t have a lot of choices. You get to make a call, but the phone number you need is on your phone and the cop isn’t going to let you use your phone. So you can sit in jail, or give the cop your password. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/36 "2014-11-04T01:16:26Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > **Smapti** ’s “brain” approaches short-circuit. > > “The best way to avoid having your sensitive data stolen is to not give cops your password. No wait, the best way to avoid altercations with police is to abide by every one of their requests without question. No wait…argghh!” No, the best thing to do is not have data on your phone that you wouldn’t want the police to see. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/37 "2014-11-04T01:18:40Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Punished, btw, would be firing. Desk duty…not so much. And I thought punishment meant being charged with a crime and going through the courts system. Oh wait, it’s the cops that are the criminals. > [@TroutMan](#): > > Unfortunately, people in this situation don’t have a lot of choices. You get to make a call, but the phone number you need is on your phone and the cop isn’t going to let you use your phone. There’s the problem right there. When the cops have the power to prevent you from calling for help, with your own goddamn phone, then things are fucked. If somebody, anybody really, takes away your phone, and refuses to let you use your phone, like to call a lawyer, then it’s a police state. The state has become the criminal element. That they then look at your private information, with no warrant, no probable cause, it’s a police state. The theft and abuse is just a side job, the real crime is violating your privacy. Once that right is abused, the rest is all just police clown car fun and games. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/38 "2014-11-04T01:25:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > No, the best thing to do is not have data on your phone that you wouldn’t want the police to see. So full circle back to it being the victim’s fault. Bless your heart, you’re just a special kind of stupid, aren’t you. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/39 "2014-11-04T01:26:59Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Bless your heart, you’re just a special kind of stupid, aren’t you. Responding to trolls allows them to change the focus of the outrage. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/40 "2014-11-04T01:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Jane Doe 1’s attorney Rick Madsen said Friday, “This is the worst-case scenario come true.” He said of his client’s photos, “Once they’re out there, they’re out there for good. The trauma that has been inflicted by these officers could be lifelong. It’s almost akin to a chronic disease — you don’t know when it’s going to manifest itself again and take over your life again, and so the anxiety that’s associated with it is incalculable.” > > This isn’t the first time that the CHP has been embroiled in controversy over photos, although in a much different context. > > In Orange County, grisly photos of an 18-year-old woman who died in 2006 while crashing her father’s Porsche were leaked by CHP dispatchers and ended up online. Her family settled a lawsuit against the CHP for $2.4 million. [http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Disturbing-texts-in-CHP-officers-nude-photo-5846327.php](http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Disturbing-texts-in-CHP-officers-nude-photo-5846327.php) “an 18-year-old woman who died in 2006 while crashing her father’s Porsche were leaked by CHP dispatchers and ended up online” Hey, if you don’t want your dead daughter’s pictures all over the place, you shouldn’t let her drive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543.md?page=3)