# Games Cops Play (With Stolen Nude Cellphone Pics)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543 "2014-11-03T18:55:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/41 "2014-11-04T01:49:43Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> If somebody, anybody really, takes away your phone, and refuses to let you use your phone, like to call a lawyer, then it’s a police state. The state has become the criminal element.

I never realized that cell phones were an inalienable human right that separates free societies from dictatorship. One wonders how democracy survived prior to the late '90s.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/42 "2014-11-04T01:52:07Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> So full circle back to it being the victim’s fault.

Is it the victims’ fault the police abused their power here? No.

Would they have been spared the embarrassment if they had practiced some discretion in what data they created and carried around with them? Yes.

Does the existence of a few bad eggs a ‘police state’ make? Seeing that the people who committed this abuse are being punished and the victims are suing and likely to win, no.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/43 "2014-11-04T01:55:16Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I never realized that cell phones were an inalienable human right that separates free societies from dictatorship. One wonders how democracy survived prior to the late '90s.

This is such a perfect reply. Thank you for this. Sadly, I don’t think you even realize why your response is so insanely stupid.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/44 "2014-11-04T02:10:20Z")

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Honestly, the cops were out of line, that’s clear.

The other side of the coin is that having nude selfies on your phone is eventually going to bite you in the ass. What if you lost your phone? In which case you’d find your images on porn sites all over the internet.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/45 "2014-11-04T02:37:52Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> What if you lost your phone?

Yeah, cause the person who finds it will force you to give them your password.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/46 "2014-11-04T02:42:14Z")

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**Smapti** , the day you disappear from this board or get banned, this board will be a better place because of it.

It’s a shame people can’t start threads like these anymore, because if they do, it just gives you a hard on because you know you have an established platform to make yourself center of attention.  
Seriously dude, you suck.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/47 "2014-11-04T02:45:27Z")

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No he makes good points.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> The best way to avoid your naked pictures being stolen is to not have naked pictures.

See? “The best way not to have your money seized is not carry money”, or “The best way to keep cops from busting down your door at 3 am and throwing flash bangs into your kids bedrooms (wrong house, sorry), is to not have a house”

It’s only logic.

“The best way to avoid having your rights violated, is to not have any rights”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/48 "2014-11-04T02:49:02Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> “The best way to avoid having your rights violated, is to not have any rights”

I don’t recall saying people shouldn’t have any rights. Please try not to put words in my mouth.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/49 "2014-11-04T03:19:59Z")

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“The best way not to have (insert anything here) stolen is not have (insert anything here) on your person.”

It’s only logical.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/50 "2014-11-04T03:22:39Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> “The best way not to have (insert anything here) stolen is not have (insert anything here) on your person.”
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> It’s only logical.

If you say so.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/51 "2014-11-04T03:25:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I never realized that cell phones were an inalienable human right that separates free societies from dictatorship.

I’m betting you missed out on that Egypt uprising and all that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/52 "2014-11-04T03:28:57Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> I’m betting you missed out on that Egypt uprising and all that.

The one that started with a one-party state run by the military and ended with a one-party state run by the military?

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/53 "2014-11-04T03:35:40Z")

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Meanwhile, back on planet earth

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/54 "2014-11-04T04:28:59Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Yeah, cause the person who finds it will force you to give them your password.

You don’t need a password to access photo’s on a phone.  
(as the cops proved in this case)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/55 "2014-11-04T11:28:50Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t recall saying people shouldn’t have any rights.

Try ginkgo biloba. If that doesn’t work, start [your search engine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638652).

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/56 "2014-11-04T11:30:18Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> You don’t need a password to access photos on a phone.

Correcting that problem is one of the reasons for the new default-encryption arrangement.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/57 "2014-11-04T13:10:26Z")

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Even worse, years ago I was working as a janitor at the courthouse where the Sheriffs office was and the deputies would watch all the confiscated porn. Some of the stuff ended up in the trash even the child porn which I was told can only be viewed by certain officers and must be locked up and destroyed as soon as possible. But policy is often different from reality.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/58 "2014-11-04T13:34:45Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Try ginkgo biloba. If that doesn’t work, start [your search engine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638652).

And where in that thread did I say people shouldn’t have rights?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/59 "2014-11-04T14:05:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I never realized that cell phones were an inalienable human right that separates free societies from dictatorship.

Actually, the right to be secure in your person, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable search and seizure is exactly that. There is no way anyone can argue that your personal information on your cell phone is not part of this coverage.

When cops rob people, do you say “they shouldn’t have had cash on them”? When cops rape people do you say “they shouldn’t have had a rapable orifice on them”? None of this is blaming the victim, because, you know, doorlocks.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/games-cops-play-with-stolen-nude-cellphone-pics/703543/60 "2014-11-04T14:51:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And where in that thread did I say people shouldn’t have rights?

To save people the trouble, here’s the relevant statement:

> [@What are your most extreme, honestly held views?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-most-extreme-honestly-held-views/609649/28):
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> All children should be confiscated from their parents at birth and raised in group homes as wards of the state until 16. No child should ever be permitted to know who their biological relatives are.
> 
> The inheritance tax should be set at 100%.
> 
> All churches and religious organizations should be made illegal and shut down. (Since the state homes for children will not teach religion, this should be accomplished easily.)
> 
> Elected officials shall be sworn at the beginning of their term to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and should be charged with perjury if they are dishonest. The penalties for perjury, bribery, or malfeasance of office shall be death. Executions shall be bloody and held in public and on live TV.
> 
> Private ownership of land or buildings should be illegal.

I need not reply; I’ll just imagine how someone else might:

[QUOTE=Kim Jong-un]  
Dude, dial it back a few notches…  
[/QUOTE]

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