# Gardening while black? Must be a paedo!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 20, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240 "2018-10-20T09:41:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/21 "2018-10-20T20:04:02Z")

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I garden while drunk.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/22 "2018-10-20T20:26:05Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Can someone please explain to me just why you’re all slagging off the UK because Quartz is a prick? I don’t call the whole of the US cunts just because you’ve got Trump, Bannon, and the like. Show me a nation that doesn’t have the odd bell end.
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> Oh, and I’m fairly confident that he’s English, though I believe currently resides in North East scotland (think I saw him on Union St a couple of weeks back)

That’s mostly my fault. The main reason is that I’m an asshole, but there are a few others. I’ve spent five or six years of my life in the UK. Obviously, I could say a lot of nice things about it, but where is the fun in that?

Americans are ridiculed, fairly, for our ignorance of history. But man, I’ve been lectured way too many times by smug, arrogant Brits who have a remarkable disconnect from the reality of British colonialism. Glass houses, stones, etc…

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/23 "2018-10-20T20:38:42Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Can someone please explain to me just why you’re all slagging off the UK because Quartz is a prick? I don’t call the whole of the US cunts just because you’ve got Trump, Bannon, and the like. Show me a nation that doesn’t have the odd bell end.

**Quartz** _is_ making the argument that the United States is fundamentally flawed at its very basis in the Constitution (which, as far as it goes, is actually a rational statement that could be supported by evidence) but advances the notion that somehow racial prejudice is a uniquely American problem even though [Great Britain has long standing systemic problems with racism and socioeconomic divides](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/18/deeply-entrenched-racial-inequality-uk-equality-human-rights-commission) and conveniently ignores the fact that the entire British Empire was based on the trade of [African slaves](https://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Focus/Slavery/articles/sherwood.html) and [opium](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/books/review/stephen-r-platt-imperial-twilight.html). Of course, essentially every European nation and colony has some cross to bear with regard to gross mistreatment of indigenous peoples, and Britain is not [the worst by far](https://www.historytoday.com/tim-stanley/belgiums-heart-darkness). But you can thank the disingenuousness of **Quartz** in garnering a response based upon his selective outrage about how America alone has manifest problems with racial inequality and that bizarre, rambling justification for how the British were simply innocent explored caught in the middle of a slave trade forced on them by West African tribes that they were just too polite to turn away.

But beyond that blind spot, **Quartz** is just generally a misogynistic, racist shit who is also a thin-skinned provocateur who can’t accept the abuse he doles out on others, so it is _schadenfreude_ to catch him at the height of obtuse hypocrisy.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/24 "2018-10-20T20:56:27Z")

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And **Quartz** goes on the Ignore list next to the other morons.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/25 "2018-10-20T21:03:01Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And **Quartz** goes on the Ignore list next to the other morons.

I call them Village Idiots. **Quartz** is not actually the worst of them, although he’s made a stellar effort in the last couple of years.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/26 "2018-10-21T00:17:49Z")

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I garden while barefoot. God, I hope no one notices.  
I have met women like the article describes. They are in every neighborhood. Always peeping out their windows and causing a dust up. That’s how they get their jollies. I hope the guy sues them and wins.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/27 "2018-10-21T00:24:40Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I garden while barefoot. God, I hope no one notices.

I don’t think it counts unless you’re also pregnant.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/28 "2018-10-21T00:27:14Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> I call them Village Idiots. **Quartz** is not actually the worst of them, although he’s made a stellar effort in the last couple of years.

I’ve taught in the California Public School System for over 32 years. In doing so I’ve determined that 1) Ron White is right: You can’t fix Stupid. B) There is a gene in the Scottish people that make them prone to Fucknuttery. iii) Quartz is a common mineral that may look good on occasion, but is generally worthless. ٤) Knob Creek Single Bottle 115 Proof Rye makes a not-inadequate Manhattan.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/29 "2018-10-21T00:37:09Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I’m sure the OP thinks he stumbled on some sort of cataclysmic “gotcha” for liberals — hey, here’s a story about white women falsely accusing a black man of crimes.

I’m not sure how anyone could consider it a “gotcha” seeing as how it seems like there were five stories along those lines just this week.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/30 "2018-10-21T01:12:47Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Can someone please explain to me just why you’re all slagging off the UK because Quartz is a prick? I don’t call the whole of the US cunts just because you’ve got Trump, Bannon, and the like. Show me a nation that doesn’t have the odd bell end.
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> Oh, and I’m fairly confident that he’s English, though I believe currently resides in North East scotland (think I saw him on Union St a couple of weeks back)

The only actual “slagging off” of the UK I see is the kind that is jovial and good fun. No one actually believes Scotland is horrible for haggis, for instance. The rest is just a response to the OP’s not so humorous slag off of the US as being uniquely racist, while ignoring his own country’s racism.

There is something particularly irritating/infuriating about someone who uses the evils of racism to slag off a country. It honestly feels like trolling to me.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/31 "2018-10-21T03:31:39Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> But beyond that blind spot, **Quartz** is just generally a misogynistic, racist shit who is also a thin-skinned provocateur who can’t accept the abuse he doles out on others, so it is _schadenfreude_ to catch him at the height of obtuse hypocrisy.
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> Stranger

**Stranger** , you use your tongue prettier than a $20 whore.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/32 "2018-10-21T07:10:51Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> That’s mostly my fault…Obviously, I could say a lot of nice things about it, but where is the fun in that?
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> Americans are ridiculed, fairly, for our ignorance of history. But man, I’ve been lectured way too many times by smug, arrogant Brits who have a remarkable disconnect from the reality of British colonialism. Glass houses, stones, etc…

Fair point. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/33 "2018-10-21T07:57:59Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> I don’t think it counts unless you’re also pregnant.

Been there, done that. In Arkansas, no less.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/34 "2018-10-21T13:54:34Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> iii) Quartz is a common mineral that may look good on occasion, but is generally worthless.

Ahem! Excuse me, but there’s nothing worthless about piezoelectricity! :eek:

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/35 "2018-10-21T15:17:58Z")

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That requires hitting quartz with a hamm…

OK, you might be on to something here.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/36 "2018-10-21T17:00:56Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> **Stranger** , how dare you.
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> Call **Quartz** an Englishman. He is a Scot

No he’s not.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/37 "2018-10-21T17:23:36Z")

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Not a true Scotsman for sure.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/38 "2018-10-21T18:03:04Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Yes, but the UK has probably done a better job of dealing with racism than the US

So I take it y’all ain’t heard about UKIP and the EDL ?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/39 "2018-10-21T18:29:19Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> So I take it y’all ain’t heard about UKIP and the EDL ?

The UK has serious issues with racism, many of which it’s in denial about.

But that said, can we just take one minute to point and laugh at the frankly pathetic “crowd” the EDL managed to generate for it’s latest march in Manchester - [Tiny EDL protest is swamped by police during march through Manchester | Metro News](https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/20/tiny-edl-protest-is-swamped-by-police-during-far-right-march-through-manchester-8059140/)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gardening-while-black-must-be-a-paedo/823240/40 "2018-10-21T18:49:14Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> The UK has serious issues with racism, many of which it’s in denial about.
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> But that said, can we just take one minute to point and laugh at the frankly pathetic “crowd” the EDL managed to generate for it’s latest march in Manchester - [Tiny EDL protest is swamped by police during march through Manchester | Metro News](https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/20/tiny-edl-protest-is-swamped-by-police-during-far-right-march-through-manchester-8059140/)

[The 2018 followup](https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/12/17681444/unite-the-right-rally-dc-charlottesville-failure) to the violent 2017 “Unite The Right” rally in Charlottesvile last year could be chariably described as ‘pathetic’, but that doesn’t mean racism and inequality is on the wane in the US; just that the bigots realized that mass oublic displays get more negative press than positive.

Stranger

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