# Garfunkel and Oates are so terrible

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 31, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630 "2015-07-31T03:50:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/41 "2015-08-01T04:33:58Z")

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Everyone knows it, nobody says it because their repugnant.

Just kidding. The 29-31 song killed me.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/42 "2015-08-01T04:45:39Z")

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Is it thread shitting to say I like them? And their TV show?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/43 "2015-08-01T09:12:48Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Is it thread shitting to say I like them? And their TV show?

You’re supposed to report to this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=763591). Here at the SDMB we have country AND western :).

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/44 "2015-08-01T11:58:16Z")

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Terrible? Probably not  
Appeal to a fifty-something year old man? Not so much

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/45 "2015-08-02T00:23:12Z")

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My perception was just that there didn’t really seem to need to be two of them. Kate Micucci could do all of it herself. The lack of harmony plays into that, but so does my inability to see how they are in any way different.

And listening to the video linked here, she’s clearly the better rapper. Lindehorn/Garfunkle sounds like me when I try to rap.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/46 "2015-08-02T00:26:39Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Kate Micucci could do all of it herself.

Maybe, but Lindholm has better tits.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/47 "2015-08-02T00:46:24Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Maybe, but Lindholm has better tits.

To each his own. I like Kate’s juuuuust fine.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/48 "2015-08-03T17:57:04Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> 1. At all times, in every song, they express sentiments that are utterly conventional. This is terrible because it’s boring. (Hm I already said that didn’t I.) Not one thing they sing, ever, _ever_, expresses any thought that is in any way new, original, unexpected, giving an unexplored angle to an old thought, or anything along those lines. They are, dare I say it, the cute female pairing version of Carlos Mencia. They’re “just saying what everyone is thinking.”

Have you listened to “[Such a Loser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2qEUwFbGM)”?

\*You can only fall that far  
‘Cause you set yourself up so high  
Who really cares if this time it didn’t fly?  
At least you tried  
At least you tried  
At least you’re not that guy watching from the side  
Who thinks he’s doing better ’cause he wasn’t defeated  
When he’s just a non-entity who never competed  
You’re the one who’s out there reaching for something greater  
And you know  
It’s better to be a loser  
Than a spectator

And you are such a loser  
You are such a loser  
So here’s to you\*

That song completely resonates with me. I was just, a couple months ago, promoted to management of my department at work. Wow, I’m “management” now, with a salary instead of an hourly wage. After 32 years working in my field. Wow. I will probably fail as a manager, and get fired. But … all I asked for was the _opportunity_ to fail.

And that’s what the song is about. I tried, and I may fail. But I **tried**.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/garfunkel-and-oates-are-so-terrible/726630/49 "2015-08-03T18:01:00Z")

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They were channeling their inner Teddy Roosevelt:

_It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat._

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