# Gargoyle kills woman in Chicago

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 6, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675 "2014-09-06T18:09:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/21 "2014-09-07T00:26:34Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I’m thinking there will be a civil suit in the works.

Absolutely.

From the article:

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> The Second Presbyterian Church in the South Loop neighborhood just outside downtown Chicago expressed its sympathy to Bean’s family in a statement on Friday and said it was “deeply sorry at the death.”

I’m guessing that, by the time this is over, an expression of sympathy might be the _least_ it needs to provide.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/22 "2014-09-07T00:37:44Z")

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The police are suspicious because she was swimming off Beachy Head at the time .

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/23 "2014-09-07T00:48:05Z")

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Not very clear from the video , was that really a Gargoyle or a Grotesque?

Gargoyles are used to drain water, a grotesque is what is named when the figure does not spill water.

> **[QI: Series G, Episode 13 - Gothic - British Comedy Guide](https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/7/13/)**
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> A guide to Gothic, Episode 13 from Series G of QI.

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> - The panel are shown a weird looking statue and are asked what they should call it. It is a “grotesque”. The difference between a grotesque and a gargoyle is that gargoyles are used to drain water, whereas grotesques are purely artistic. The word “gargoyle” comes from the French “gargouille”, meaning “throat”, from which we also get the word “gargle”. (Forfeit: Gargoyle)

Clip from the show:

  
And I just noticed that **dropzone** also wondered.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/24 "2014-09-07T16:08:31Z")

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Great. One hardened gargoyle goes rogue and now all of them are getting a bad rap.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/25 "2014-09-07T16:14:59Z")

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Since when is “mother of two” hyphenated? And why is it that her status as a mother is the still the first way she’s described?

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/26 "2014-09-07T16:21:01Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Since when is “mother of two” hyphenated?

When both children are named Pearl.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/27 "2014-09-07T16:42:20Z")

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Unfortunately, it takes a terrible tragedy like to this remind us that, so often, not only is our sense of safety just a facade, but that a facade is, so often, not safe.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/28 "2014-09-07T21:48:45Z")

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Next on sci-fi -

Gargonado

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/29 "2014-09-07T22:06:13Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Not very clear from the video , was that really a Gargoyle or a Grotesque?
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> Gargoyles are used to drain water, a grotesque is what is named when the figure does not spill water.
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> [http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/qi/episodes/7/13/](http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/qi/episodes/7/13/)  
> Clip from the show:
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> And I just noticed that **dropzone** also wondered.

I wouldn’t mind death by gargoyle so much… but to have a grotesque death just doesn’t have the same ring to it.  
I feel sorry for the family, and two little kids left behind. ☹

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/30 "2014-09-08T01:43:23Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Since when is “mother of two” hyphenated?

I don’t see a problem with it. I assume the reasoning was to avoid confusion with the “who was walking along the street” modifying it, making sure the reader treats “mother of two” as a single syntactic unit instead of possible hiccuping on the sentence trying to attach the “who was walking along the street” to “two.” It’s certainly not _wrong_ to hyphenate that noun phrase.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/31 "2014-09-08T04:32:46Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Not very clear from the video , was that really a Gargoyle or a Grotesque?

Pooh. A wikipedia distinction. Nothing at all like “something found painted on the wall in a grotto that was Nero’s palace”

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/32 "2014-09-08T11:49:28Z")

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I first read it as “Sean Bean was killed by a gargoyle” and thought, so what else is new.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/33 "2014-09-08T15:52:09Z")

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She worked at a Childrens hospital, and was killed by stuff falling off a church? Somebody better check her recent patients for jackal DNA.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/34 "2014-09-08T17:21:38Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Goliath has a lot to answer for.

LOL I was just thinking about that old TV show.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/35 "2014-09-09T01:49:19Z")

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In the OP quote, seeing the name “Bean” and the verb “killed” causes my brain to automatically insert “Sean” 😉 Although in all his deaths, I don’t recall a gargoyle related incident.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/36 "2014-09-09T03:25:57Z")

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I,Frankenstein

Declan

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gargoyle-kills-woman-in-chicago/697675/37 "2014-09-09T12:34:06Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> And why is it that her status as a mother is the still the first way she’s described?

It’s common for parents of either sex to be described as such in reports when killed suddenly. I suppose it serves to emphasise the effect the death has on others.

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