# Gatopescado's warning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719>\
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**Created:** [March 8, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719 "2017-03-08T19:27:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/1 "2017-03-08T19:27:49Z")

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From the following thread:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=821070](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=821070)

> [@Why does feeling attractive feel creepy?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-feeling-attractive-feel-creepy/781701/1):
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> The thread asking what makes men attractive to women got me musing about the idea of overall physical attraction. And I thought a place where I’m anonymous and no one knows what I look like might be a good place to ask something personal.
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> Last year, for reasons I won’t delve into too much, I got more attractive. My husband was so happy for me, and I was thrilled as well. But something about it didn’t sit well with me, and I haven’t been able to tease out precisely what it is. Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this.
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> (FTR, I’m not saying I don’t want to be attractive. I’m just saying that the feeling of being attractive isn’t 100% warm fuzzy feelings, and I’m trying to figure out why because it seems like it should be.)

> [@Why does feeling attractive feel creepy?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-feeling-attractive-feel-creepy/781701/6):
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> I got $10 on “boob job”.

> [@Why does feeling attractive feel creepy?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-feeling-attractive-feel-creepy/781701/10):
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> What the fuck is wrong with you?

> [@Why does feeling attractive feel creepy?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-feeling-attractive-feel-creepy/781701/12):
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> **Gatopescado**  
> We have had long board discussions about the inappropriateness of responding to sincere discussions about women’s bodies with jokes. There is absolutely no reason to answer a sincere discussion that happens to involve body issues with jokes about boob jobs.
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> Warning issued.
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> This applies to **everyone** in the thread. Just don’t do it.

Who gives a shit if there have been long board discussions? I don’t see what rule was violated, not even the “don’t be a jerk” rule.

This was a “serious” discussion? Or about “body issues”? The OP was asking about something that “didn’t sit well” with her that another thread got her musing over. The comment wasn’t something I think anyone that isn’t overly sensitive would get worked up about. I don’t recall what the long discussions here were about, but the OP said she has gotten more attractive. Someone jokes that he bets it was a boob job. Just not seeing this as a warnable offense.

“What the fuck is wrong with you?” doesn’t even get a wrist slap?

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/2 "2017-03-08T19:33:43Z")

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If that post by **Gatopescado** wasn’t jerkish then I don’t know what is. Warning richly deserved.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/3 "2017-03-08T19:38:49Z")

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IMHO, **Gato** came across as a jerk in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/4 "2017-03-08T19:42:07Z")

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Jerk. Big time.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/5 "2017-03-08T19:44:06Z")

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Richly deserved? Big time? Alrighty then. I guess I’m particularly insensitive today. Just not seeing it.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/6 "2017-03-08T19:51:50Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Richly deserved? Big time? Alrighty then. I guess I’m particularly insensitive today. Just not seeing it.

Of course not. You can’t discuss attractiveness. All you see are bones.

Oh, and Gatopescado was being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/7 "2017-03-08T19:54:15Z")

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**Gato** makes snarky remarks. It’s his thing, for the most part.

In any case, his remark was his usual fare. We have all been warned on double, secret, we-really-really-mean it, not to be jerks when folks want to talk about sensitive topics. He was a jerk. He earned the warning.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/8 "2017-03-08T19:55:56Z")

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I’m not going to search for it, but the long discussions lead to a specific rule. Basically, a lot of women were tired of bringing up their bodies in serious contexts–social or even medical–only to have a few posters go “Hurr, hurr, boobies” like they were a 12 year old on 4chan. The mods made an announcement that anyone doing this would get a warning. That’s what happened.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/9 "2017-03-08T20:03:14Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Richly deserved? Big time? Alrighty then. I guess I’m particularly insensitive today. Just not seeing it.

Offensive or not, can you seriously not see how dismissive the comment was towards the OP?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/10 "2017-03-08T20:03:51Z")

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Jerkish comment that made me want to send the OP a PM apologizing [del]for[/del] on behalf of my sex.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/11 "2017-03-08T20:14:16Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Offensive or not, can you seriously not see how dismissive the comment was towards the OP?

Since you’re starting off with “offensive or not”, I guess you think dismissive comments in general are warnable offenses? That would make a lot more joke posts warnable than actually get warnings.

Again, this was the OP musing over something that didn’t quite sit well with her about something that she was otherwise thrilled with. Sorry, I still don’t see it, but I won’t debate it. I’m outnumbered by people I respect as being very reasonable, so I guess it’s me on this one.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/12 "2017-03-08T20:28:34Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Again, this was the OP musing over something that didn’t quite sit well with her about something that she was otherwise thrilled with. Sorry, I still don’t see it, but I won’t debate it. I’m outnumbered by people I respect as being very reasonable, so I guess it’s me on this one.

I would probably have agreed with your interpretation a few years ago.

The things that happened during our last election, and the way it has affected people I care about, has forced a change, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/13 "2017-03-08T20:33:10Z")

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Excellent call. Enough mod slapdowns like this and maybe the “boobz hurr durr pictures or it didn’t happen amirite” crowd will be shamed into the 21st century.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/14 "2017-03-08T21:05:06Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> I don’t see what rule was violated, not even the “don’t be a jerk” rule.

I read this post out of curiosity, wondering if the warning in question might be the sort of mod overreaction that sometimes happens. Nope. When someone asks a sincere question about a sensitive personal matter, there is _ **NO** _ situation in which a tasteless joke is an appropriate response, and being offended in such a vulnerable situation is not being “overly sensitive”.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/15 "2017-03-08T21:19:39Z")

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I don’t have much to add here than has been explained.

The “what the fuck is wrong with you” comment probably deserved a note, but I was focused on the real issue at the time.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/16 "2017-03-08T22:54:38Z")

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Happy International Women’s Day everybody!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/17 "2017-03-08T23:10:19Z")

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Clearly being a jerk. Deserved.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/18 "2017-03-08T23:24:19Z")

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Yup. I’ll join the chorus. I remember the discussions. It was an insensitive comment and the warning was well-deserved.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/19 "2017-03-09T00:36:39Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> I’m not going to search for it, but the long discussions lead to a specific rule. Basically, a lot of women were tired of bringing up their bodies in serious contexts–social or even medical–only to have a few posters go “Hurr, hurr, boobies” like they were a 12 year old on 4chan. The mods made an announcement that anyone doing this would get a warning. That’s what happened.

Here’s the thread:

[Moderation of inappropriate sexual commentary](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690178)

**Ellen Cherry** set out the guidelines in the first post. Locked thread, so I can’t quote directly.

[QUOTE= Ellen Cherry]  
\*\*Here, then, are the guidelines we will use when determining whether a post with sexual references needs review and might be subject to moderation:

1. Is it directed at another poster on this board?
2. Is it a sexual comment in a thread with a non-sexual topic?
3. Is it a sexual joke in a thread on a serious sexual topic?\*\*

…

Think about what you post. If you’re writing it to either score points in a battle, or up your cred as an acknowledged board wit — consider that the wider target of your point might view it differently than you. Think about if you’re contributing to ongoing dialog or to ongoing dissension. Think about what brought most of us to this board: the desire for an exchange of ideas among other intelligent people whose backgrounds may be different from our own. Please bear that in mind when articulating your thoughts.

This is the consensus of the moderating staff.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/20 "2017-03-09T00:55:42Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I read this post out of curiosity, wondering if the warning in question might be the sort of mod overreaction that sometimes happens. Nope. When someone asks a sincere question about a sensitive personal matter, there is _ **NO** _ situation in which a tasteless joke is an appropriate response, and being offended in such a vulnerable situation is not being “overly sensitive”.

+1

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