# Gatopescado's warning **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 8, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719 "2017-03-08T19:27:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/81 "2017-03-09T19:01:24Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > So, any mention of “boob job” is now against the rules? Complete hyperbole. If GP had asked, “Did you get a boob job or did you lose weight?” I think it would have been entirely appropriate and may have given more insight than the OPs “I did something but I won’t say what.” nebula. But the way GP said it was moddable\* (I would say note instead of warning but whatevs) just like if he had said “I bet ya lost an asston of weight.” - I personally think it was in bad taste but not personal enough to fall into the “Don’t be a jerk” category but it is still moddable under the rules of the board. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/82 "2017-03-09T19:08:26Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Complete hyperbole. If GP had asked, “Did you get a boob job or did you lose weight?” I think it would have been entirely appropriate and may have given more insight than the OPs “I did something but I won’t say what.” nebula. > > But the way GP said it was moddable\* (I would say note instead of warning but whatevs) just like if he had said “I bet ya lost an asston of weight.” > > - I personally think it was in bad taste but not personal enough to fall into the “Don’t be a jerk” category but it is still moddable under the rules of the board. Right, which is why I said Note rather than warning. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/83 "2017-03-09T19:16:31Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > I don’t disagree with the overall result of the moderation, but it seems fair to point out that we don’t actually know if that thread had anything to do with the OP’s body. > > The OP asked, essentially, why they feel the way they do after doing something that made them more attractive, the details of which they will not disclose, except to say their husband was delighted and they don’t know why they aren’t happier about it. > > That could mean anything from a haircut or a new shirt all the way up to major reconstructive surgery. It could even be something totally non-physical like adopting a new “more attractive” attitude. There’s no way to know from the information provided. So we also don’t know if this thread even was a sincere discussion of women’s bodies since the OP didn’t want to say what it was actually about. > > I’ve never been against modding drive by booby jokes in inappropriate threads just for being jerkish or threadshitting or whatever the case may be. In this case “breast augmentation” was actually probably the number one guess someone would make if forced to guess what the OP was talking about. If, instead of a driveby joke with no substance they had posted “Do you mind if I ask, are we talking about a boob job here or something like a new hairstyle?” IMO that should not have been modded in the context of the thread and the spirit of the ‘boobygate’ rules. > > Anyway, each and every possible violation of that rule was already a violation under the don’t be a jerk rule, so to me it always seemed redundant. The thread may or may not have been about the OP’s body. **Gatopescado’s** comment was absolutely about her body. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/84 "2017-03-09T19:46:32Z")
To put it into context, **The wind of my soul** did get more specific about her changes. She lifted weights, lost ten pounds, and gained muscle tone. So, the boob joke was not only jerkish, it was irrelevant. Definitely a good moderation call. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20053736&postcount=35](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20053736&postcount=35) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/85 "2017-03-09T19:52:54Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > I don’t think you’re parsing AK84’s post the way he meant it to be. I think he means it would have gone unnoticed by someone like me that would start a thread over this, because in another thread, a booby joke would have been more objectively warnable. Well, you’re all man’splainin’ for each other, so I’m not going to give any weight to **AK84’s** post or your explanation of it. Other than to say I completely disagree with both of you and I’m unconvinced by anything either of you says. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/86 "2017-03-09T19:59:02Z")
…which she says 29 posts and a day after Gatopesado’s comment and 23 posts past the warning; ETA: The reply is to the post directly preceding the above hissy fit. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/87 "2017-03-09T19:59:07Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > To put it into context, **The wind of my soul** did get more specific about her changes. She lifted weights, lost ten pounds, and gained muscle tone. So, the boob joke was not only jerkish, it was irrelevant. Definitely a good moderation call. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20053736&postcount=35](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20053736&postcount=35) So, how jerkish the comment was and how good the moderation was can be decided based on what’s written after the warning was given? It was an irrelevant joke at the time it was made because later the OP made it obvious there was no boob job? > [@](#): > > Well, you’re all man’splainin’ for each other, so I’m not going to give any weight to **AK84’s** post or your explanation of it. Other than to say I completely disagree with both of you and I’m unconvinced by anything either of you says. Man’splainin’? I find that highly sexist and offensive! My explanation of it was done because you misunderstood what he wrote. There was no man’splainin’. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/88 "2017-03-09T20:00:35Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > So, how jerkish the comment was and how good the moderation was can be decided based on what’s written after the warning was given? It was an irrelevant joke at the time it was made because later the OP made it obvious there was no boob job? > Man’splainin’? I find that highly sexist and offensive! > > My explanation of it was done because you misunderstood what he wrote. There was no man’splainin’. Right :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/89 "2017-03-09T20:22:21Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > So, any mention of “boob job” is now against the rules? It’s misogyny now? Seems easier to just mark threads with trigger warnings so people know a thread is “woman safe” instead of expecting people to have seen some 13-page thread that apparently is now a rule to protect the women on the board. \*\*Gatopescado \*\*apparently hadn’t read it. Trigger warnings are the thing now. Let’s keep up with the times. If there had been some sort of warning on the thread maybe he wouldn’t have made a snarky remark. It seems easier to me to just _not be a jerk about women’s bodies_. If you need some threads to be marked as “woman safe,” what does that say about all the other threads? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/90 "2017-03-09T20:28:00Z")
If you’re worried, consider these guidelines: 1. Don’t make a joke about the body, especially about the primary or secondary sexual characteristics, of a person you don’t know really well. 2. No, that pretty much covers it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/91 "2017-03-09T20:37:06Z")
1. Ask yourself why on Earth you’d seek affirmation from your 300 million closest friends on a public message board? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/92 "2017-03-09T21:08:12Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > Not when it comes to deciding whether or not the level of moderation was appropriate. It’s not just that he’s apologizing, but he’s apologizing and not trying to get the Warning rescinded. That heavily suggests he accepts that the level of moderation was appropriate. > [@levdrakon](#): > > Justify your comment. Making a forum for women is somehow endorsing bullying. Makes no sense. If someone said, “let’s make a bullying forum” that would make sense. Well, we have the Pit. The only reason a “forum for women” in this context would be necessary is if you were advocating that people should be able to be hostile towards women in the rest of the forums. Just like you don’t need a “bully-free” forum unless you allow bullying in every other forum. And, yes, I know you weren’t actually suggesting a women’s forum, but making a point. But that point was that we shouldn’t care about these people’s discomfort. Despite them caring so much they got a special rule about it. This forum isn’t a democracy. How rare is it that something is so bad that the mods make a new rule? When people do something all the time, it often takes a strong deterrence to make sure people don’t do it again. So the mods said they’d start handing out Warnings. Which means that, if someone does violate the rule, they have to follow through–even if you think this particular case wasn’t as bad as what happened before. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/93 "2017-03-09T21:22:39Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Well, you’re all man’splainin’ for each other, so I’m not going to give any weight to **AK84’s** post or your explanation of it. Other than to say I completely disagree with both of you and I’m unconvinced by anything either of you says. Irrelevant if you are a psychic. ---
**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/94 "2017-03-09T21:35:01Z")
I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to really not get this. I call troll. I’m sorry, trolls. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/95 "2017-03-09T22:03:08Z")
I think the thing that sticks out the most to me when these threads pop up is why are some men so invested in being able to joke about women’s breasts and/or genitals. Really? It’s so important to you that you be able to mock women with impunity and you’re going to fight for your rights by golly. It just strikes me that someone like that would have a pretty pathetic existence. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/96 "2017-03-09T22:04:39Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > 1. Ask yourself why on Earth you’d seek affirmation from your 300 million closest friends on a public message board? Why on earth would you seek any discussion at all on the message board then? ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/97 "2017-03-09T22:04:45Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It’s not just that he’s apologizing, but he’s apologizing and not trying to get the Warning rescinded. That heavily suggests he accepts that the level of moderation was appropriate. Which is irrelevant when it comes to deciding whether or not the level of moderation was appropriate. Which is what I said. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/98 "2017-03-09T22:17:36Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I think the thing that sticks out the most to me when these threads pop up is why are some men so invested in being able to joke about women’s breasts and/or genitals. Really? It’s so important to you that you be able to mock women with impunity and you’re going to fight for your rights by golly. > > It just strikes me that someone like that would have a pretty pathetic existence. I started this thread, and you did just plainly insult me. I’m sure you won’t get a warning for it. Consider that in comparison to what so many think was highly offensive and well deserving of a warning. _I got $10 on “boob job”._ ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/99 "2017-03-09T22:27:48Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > I started this thread, and you did just plainly insult me. I’m sure you won’t get a warning for it. Consider that in comparison to what so many think was highly offensive and well deserving of a warning. > > _I got $10 on “boob job”._ Why are you taking that personally? Not everything is about you. I didn’t mention you and, in fact, wasn’t even thinking of you at all. These threads pop up annoyingly often and I was saying that, when they do, it seems pathetic that some people decide that this is the hill they want to die on - to be able to joke about women. It’s weird to me. I am sorry if you felt insulted. ---
**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/100 "2017-03-09T22:30:22Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > I started this thread, and you did just plainly insult me. I’m sure you won’t get a warning for it. Consider that in comparison to what so many think was highly offensive and well deserving of a warning. > > _I got $10 on “boob job”._ You poor thing. (sarcasm alert) Clearly, women who object to constantly being reduced to a pair of tits when they’re trying to speak are entitled and privileged to ask (again and again and again) to not be treated that way. Not the one who feels the need to start a thread protesting someone else being asked to stop that. Are you serious. I think what we see on this thread with these disingenuous arguments is thinly veiled aggression, to be honest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719.md?page=6)