# Gatopescado's warning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [March 8, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719 "2017-03-08T19:27:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/101 "2017-03-09T22:35:51Z")

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> [@Fruitbat](#):
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> I think what we see on this thread with these disingenuous arguments is thinly veiled aggression, to be honest.

I think what we see on this thread is a massive amount of holier-than-thou internet butthurt over absolutely fuck all, to be honest.

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**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/102 "2017-03-09T22:38:12Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I think the thing that sticks out the most to me when these threads pop up is why are some men so invested in being able to joke about women’s breasts and/or genitals. Really? It’s so important to you that you be able to mock women with impunity and you’re going to fight for your rights by golly.
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> It just strikes me that someone like that would have a pretty pathetic existence.

They are not on the receiving end of it so they don’t know how old it gets or how sick women get of that being treated to vulgar rudeness when they are trying to speak.

Since they are not in those shoes, they mansplain that it isn’t a problem that exists, or certainly not one worth bothering about.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/103 "2017-03-09T22:39:44Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> They are not on the receiving end of it so they don’t know how old it gets or how sick women get of that being treated to vulgar rudeness when they are trying to speak.
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> Since they are not in those shoes, they mansplain that it isn’t a problem that exists, or certainly not one worth bothering about.

“Mansplain?” That’s not a very nice term. Seems a wee bit sexist.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/104 "2017-03-09T22:43:09Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> Not everything is about you.

Seriously? Is that the way I’ve come off to you either on this message board or thread? 🙂  
_when these threads pop up_

It popped up because I started it.

_It just strikes me that someone like that would have a pretty pathetic existence._

Okay, I guess that wasn’t an insult to anyone.

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> it seems pathetic that some people decide that this is the hill they want to die on - to be able to joke about women.

That’s not the point.

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> I am sorry if you felt insulted.

Shitty non-apology apology, but like you said, it’s not about me. My feelings aren’t the point. My point is that that comment by you which is clearly an insult will get no moderation at all. But “I got $10 on boob job” got a warning.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/105 "2017-03-09T22:43:14Z")

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**Moderator Note**

> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to really not get this. I call troll. I’m sorry, trolls.

Accusations of trolling are not permitted in ATMB. If you want to accuse someone of trolling, take it to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/106 "2017-03-09T22:45:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> I think what we see on this thread is a massive amount of holier-than-thou internet butthurt over absolutely fuck all, to be honest.

Yes, it is but no, you are not being honest at all. What actually happened was, a woman started a thread about something of concern to her. Some guy brushed that off to respond with a joke about her breasts. He was merely asked to stop and the conversation went on. Okay, we all misspeak now and then.

Then, this. Holier-than-thou internet butthurt over absolutely fuck all, started by a man and continued by men - whining because someone was asked to show some respect.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/107 "2017-03-09T22:46:07Z")

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**Moderator Note**

Conversations in ATMB are expected to be polite and respectful. This thread is getting way too snippy. Everyone dial it back a notch or two, please.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/108 "2017-03-09T22:49:39Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> He was merely asked to stop
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> whining because someone was asked to show some respect.

Take another look.  
ETA: You’re new here, so for your first comment above I realize you may not be aware that official warnings are considered a big deal here. But he wan’t asked to stop. And we’re not whining because someone was asked to show some respect in that thread. That was never asked.

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**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/109 "2017-03-09T22:52:55Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> I think what we see on this thread with these disingenuous arguments is thinly veiled aggression, to be honest.

and pandering sycophancy… don’t forget the pandering sycophancy

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**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/110 "2017-03-09T23:02:20Z")

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Why would anyone think it’s acceptable to comment on a woman’s breasts in any way as a response to an issue of concern to her that she’s brought to us?

Why would anyone start a thread defending that or complain that a mod had to ask him to show some respect?

Or join in and defend jeering at women with unwanted sexual innuendos as “their right?”

I wouldn’t talk to men who think like that in real life so I guess I’m done here. Gross.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/111 "2017-03-09T23:05:31Z")

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I think the issue is a mod warning and clarification about the rules. AFAIK, three warnings and you’re banned. It’s not about being asked to stop something.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/112 "2017-03-09T23:06:34Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> Why would anyone think it’s acceptable to comment on a woman’s breasts in any way as a response to an issue of concern to her that she’s brought to us?

It’s irrelevant. What’s relevant is whether or not what was said should be a warnable offense.

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> Why would anyone start a thread defending that or complain that a mod merely asked him to show some respect?

Again, that’s not what “merely” happened. It didn’t even happen at all.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/113 "2017-03-09T23:07:35Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Seriously? Is that the way I’ve come off to you either on this message board or thread? 🙂

No, I’ve never noticed you before.

> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Shitty non-apology apology, but like you said, it’s not about me.

😉

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/114 "2017-03-09T23:09:44Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> Yes, it is but no, you are not being honest at all. What actually happened was, a woman started a thread about something of concern to her. Some guy brushed that off to respond with a joke about her breasts. He was merely asked to stop and the conversation went on. Okay, we all misspeak now and then.

Now who’s being dishonest? He wasn’t “merely asked to stop”. He got a warning and was told to stop.

I don’t give a fuck about the joke or the warning or any of it to be honest. It just pisses me off that so many people - people who, incidentally, have no compunction about hurling the most obscene invective they can muster at those they disagree with in the Pit - are harrumphing and clutching their pearls and ostentatiously bemoaning the death of decency because someone cracked a weak, tame assed, boiler-plate, tepid little nothing of a joke. It’s pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/115 "2017-03-09T23:10:54Z")

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I’m not new here, I was on here long ago.

Warnings are not as big a deal to plenty of us women as merely being shown basic respect and not subjected to sexual jeering as a matter of course.

And, x-ray, I think you are the one who needs to read this thread again as you seem to be conveniently skipping over quite a few of the comments.

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**Author:** ![Fruitbat2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fruitbat2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fruitbat2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/116 "2017-03-09T23:17:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> Now who’s being dishonest? He wasn’t “merely asked to stop”. He got a warning and was told to stop.
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> I don’t give a fuck about the joke or the warning or any of it to be honest. It just pisses me off that so many people - people who, incidentally, have no compunction about hurling the most obscene invective they can muster at those they disagree with in the Pit - are harrumphing and clutching their pearls and ostentatiously bemoaning the death of decency because someone cracked a weak, tame assed, boiler-plate, tepid little nothing of a joke. It’s pathetic.

I don’t do that and have no responsibility for those who do. I am not crazy about some of the things in the pit either but that is not the topic here. Why don’t you take that up with whoever is doing it rather than me?

I did not think it was any big deal that someone misspoke. I doubt anyone did. What I am disgusted by is some of the comments on this thread.

In any case, if you speak to a woman about her breasts when she has brought up a serious concern to her and you get a warning for it, maybe you should have shown some respect and are not actually any big victim. The one warned, after all, does not seem to have a problem with it. Therefore, the level of outrage over that shown on this thread seems disingenuous. And… those are the ones clutching the pearls here- after all, they started the thread. Again, don’t turn it around.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/117 "2017-03-09T23:20:22Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> I’m not new here, I was on here long ago.
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> Warnings are not as big a deal to plenty of us women as merely being shown basic respect and not subjected to sexual jeering as a matter of course.
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> And, x-ray, I think you are the one who needs to read this thread again as you seem to be conveniently skipping over quite a few of the comments.

So why aren’t you using your original account if you know the rules from days long past?

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/118 "2017-03-09T23:23:12Z")

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> [@Fruitbat2](#):
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> I did not think it was any big deal that someone misspoke. I doubt anyone did

What does this mean and who are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/119 "2017-03-09T23:25:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> I think what we see on this thread is a massive amount of holier-than-thou internet butthurt over absolutely fuck all, to be honest.

I was about to say that I agreed with your perception. But then I realized that you _weren’t_ talking about the pro-boobie-joke contingent.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gatopescados-warning/781719/120 "2017-03-09T23:26:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Sanchez](#):
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> Now who’s being dishonest? He wasn’t “merely asked to stop”. He got a warning and was told to stop.
> 
> I don’t give a fuck about the joke or the warning or any of it to be honest. It just pisses me off that so many people - people who, incidentally, have no compunction about hurling the most obscene invective they can muster at those they disagree with in the Pit - are harrumphing and clutching their pearls and ostentatiously bemoaning the death of decency because someone cracked a weak, tame assed, boiler-plate, tepid little nothing of a joke. It’s pathetic.

That’s what the Pit is for. It’s there for insults and has a looser standard for moderation than IMHO. And even there, some posts do draw warnings. I’ve seen a poster draw a couple of warnings in the Pit for using an insulting term against transgender people. I think he’s currently suspended.

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