# Gavin McInnes Tries To Be the Next Julius Streicher **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249 "2013-03-07T01:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/1 "2013-03-07T01:28:10Z")
[http://takimag.com/article/tackling\_asian\_privilege\_gavin\_mcinnes/print#axzz2MoB2EzY5](http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz2MoB2EzY5) This is one of the most incredibly racist shit I’ve read in a while, reminiscent of old anti-Semitic propaganda denouncing “model minorities” Among the highlights: > [@](#): > > McGill University is one of the most elite schools in North America, and to walk through their campus is to be transported into a pastoral Chinatown.This is true of all Ivy League schools. Apparently McInnes forgets that there is a glass ceiling in the Ivy League colleges for Asians: [http://www.theamericanconservative.com/new-york-times-asian-american-quotas-in-the-ivy-league/](http://www.theamericanconservative.com/new-york-times-asian-american-quotas-in-the-ivy-league/) > [@](#): > > Though many Asians come here with little or no money and live in rough neighborhoods, they are lifted out of this disadvantage within a generation and are soon living an upper-middle-class lifestyle. This is because in America, Asians live a disproportionately advantaged life where things are simply handed to them I dunno, maybe its 'cause of cultural factors and a work ethic? :roll: > [@](#): > > These arrogant Orientals flaunt the racist moniker “model minority.” Totally not racist at all… > [@](#): > > Asian privilege is, if you will, an “invisible knapsack” of unearned perks and benefits that an Asian is able to unpack wherever he or she goes—even if they aren’t in Asia. I’m sure the tens of millions of workers in factories in China who earn a dollar a day producing plastic trinkets are beneficiaries of “Asian privilege”… > [@](#): > > You don’t need epicanthic folds to see that simply by the virtue of their success Asians are seriously and systematically oppressing people of color. Haw haw. Could you explain a bit,for you see, not everyone’s retarded enough to understand your troll logic? > [@](#): > > Whether they know it or not, simply existing can be tantamount to a hate crime. I try to avoid Nazi comparisons even for racists, but this garbage is saying that Asians are commiting a crime just by _existing_ just like the Nazi racial ideology used to justify industrial genocide. > [@](#): > > When Asians such as New York Times reporter Michael Luo watch Jeremy Lin score 25 points, they are filled with joy and pride. This, mind you, is from a country that killed 50 million people. This racist shitbag appears not to recognize that Mr. Luo was born in Pittsburgh and Mr. Lin in Los Angeles, and believes that all Asians are apparently from Red China. > [@](#): > > We need to transform society to the point where privilege is not slanted in anyone’s favor. Very funny, :roll: [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/2 "2013-03-07T01:35:12Z")
You did catch the tagline [Modest Proposals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal), right? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/3 "2013-03-07T02:36:56Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > You did catch the tagline [Modest Proposals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal), right? Insert joke about getting hungry an hour later. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/4 "2013-03-07T03:37:35Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I dunno, maybe its 'cause of cultural factors and a work ethic? :roll: Silly, only white male Christian conservatives have a work ethic. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/5 "2013-03-07T04:03:52Z")
Whoosh, **Curtis**. Whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/6 "2013-03-07T04:17:53Z")
I’m feeling quite fucking stupid now, but I was told of this article by a friend who took it seriously also and actually did a whole critique of it for a school assignment. ☹ Its just enough realistic (unlike Swift’s original Modest Proposal which was transparently a satire) that one can take it seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/7 "2013-03-07T04:40:55Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I’m feeling quite fucking stupid now, but I was told of this article by a friend who took it seriously also and actually did a whole critique of it for a school assignment. ☹ Its just enough realistic (unlike Swift’s original Modest Proposal which was transparently a satire) that one can take it seriously. Yeah, to be fair it’s not especially good satire if it’s hard to work out exactly what it’s taking the piss out of. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/8 "2013-03-07T04:54:58Z")
It’s a joke. Satire. Of what I’m not exactly sure. Probably making fun of those (and they do exist) who advocate for quotas for Asians in academia. On the other hand, if it wasn’t a joke, it’s exactly the kind of thing I’d expect in a webzine that bears the name of that piece of shit Taki Theodoracopulos. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/9 "2013-03-07T05:11:53Z")
This is just bizarre. Hint, if you’re a a racist like Gavin MacInnes and writing for a racist publication like _Taki’s Magazine_, you probably aren’t any good at satirizing racism. Or whatever you’re trying to do here. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/10 "2013-03-07T05:45:25Z")
Yea, it reads like satire written by someone who wasn’t particularly clear on what satire was. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/11 "2013-03-07T07:53:05Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > On the other hand, if it wasn’t a joke, it’s exactly the kind of thing I’d expect in a webzine that bears the name of that piece of shit Taki Theodoracopulos. Do tell. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/12 "2013-03-07T14:06:05Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I’m feeling quite fucking stupid now, but I was told of this article by a friend who took it seriously also and actually did a whole critique of it for a school assignment. ☹ Its just enough realistic (unlike Swift’s original Modest Proposal which was transparently a satire) that one can take it seriously. Can’t really fault you- it is hard to work out what’s being sent up\*- but you should probably tell you friend to at least do cursory research about the authors of pieces they write criticism of. I’m pretty sure he would have figured it out after discovering Gavin McInnes is the “Godfather of hipsterdom”. \*I’m not even sure I _have_, yet. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/13 "2013-03-07T14:14:47Z")
Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with the rest of Gavin McInnes’s [oeuvre](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MsEaRbVuzs). ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/14 "2013-03-07T14:56:04Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > It’s a joke. Satire. Of what I’m not exactly sure. Probably making fun of those (and they do exist) who advocate for quotas for Asians in academia. It’s satirizing the idea of white privilege by substituting in Asians, whom glib racists see as a model for lazy browns to aspire to. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/15 "2013-03-07T15:53:13Z")
In glancing at the “columnists” sidebar I instantly recognize: [ul] [li]Two people who were fired from the National Review last year for racism ([John Derbyshire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Derbyshire#Comments_on_race_and_multiculturalism) and [Robert Weissberg](http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-beta-cons/295729/regarding-robert-weissberg-rich-lowry))[/li][li]One white nationalist loon ([Paul Gottfried](http://www.splcenter.org/intelligence-report/-year-hate/academic-racists))[/li][li]And my favourite, all-present, self promoting, pseudoscientist/movie critic (Steve Sailer).[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/16 "2013-03-07T15:59:57Z")
In reading the previous article Gavin wrote on that site, it turns out that…Yes; he seems to be a “race realist” loon too. [QUOTE=Gavin McInnes] Anthropologists and sociobiologists who discuss innate traits are consistently banished from the tribe. Surely the astonishingly similar lives of identical twins separated at birth shows nature deserves a fighting chance. The Bell Curve is still treated like it was written by the Unabomber, despite Herrnstein and Murray prefacing the book with a sea of disclaimers and careful pleading that although it is possible to make generalizations about a group’s behavior, one must never apply knowledge of these patterns to an individual. (Interestingly, discussing the high IQs of Jews isn’t nearly as taboo.) Such data should not be considered controversial. The problem with ignoring stats such as Herrnstein and Murray’s is you end up fostering indignation when people notice the world isn’t as perfectly fair as promised. If fat, short men were told they’re not prominent in the NBA because of some sort of bias, they’d be furious. That’s what you do when you foster false notions of ubiquitous equality. You make people angry. That’s the irony of trying to create a world without hate. It nurtures hatred. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/17 "2013-03-07T18:18:08Z")
Even back when he was at Vice, he used to push the line about how we need to close the border so that immigrants don’t come here and adopt a lifestyle like ours, because that would be bad for the environment. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/18 "2013-03-07T20:57:51Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > Do tell. Taki is pretty well known for his open racism. You can google his stuff yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/19 "2013-03-07T21:38:34Z")
Yeah, I’m starting to think that despite the tagline that implies this is satire, it’s \*really \*not. I’d never heard of Taki Theodoracopulos, so I Googled him, and what’s the very first hit on autocomplete? “Taki Theodoracopulos racist”. Huh. Seems he has a little bit of a reputation. Sure enough, discussion of his racism takes up at least one fourth of his brief [Wiki entry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taki_Theodoracopulos). Okay, but McInnes is just the columnist. Who knows; perhaps he’s trying to subvert Taki’s ideology. Let’s Google him, see what he’s about. Second hit on autocomplete, after “twitter”: “racist”. Well that ain’t good. Here’s a little bit more [about him](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/07/1081523/-Would-you-willingly-buy-vodka-from-a-racist-who-pees-in-then-eats-cornflakes). And here’s a charming piece about the [both of them](http://observer.com/2012/05/to-slur-with-love-ironic-racism-is-more-than-just-taki/?show=all), Taki’s Magazine, and other “hipster racists”. Because apparently, that’s a thing now. Grand. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249/20 "2013-03-07T23:08:16Z")
I was a hipster racist before it was cool.🆒 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gavin-mcinnes-tries-to-be-the-next-julius-streicher/652249.md?page=2)