# Gay activists flip off Reagan's picture

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042 "2012-06-23T06:32:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/81 "2012-06-23T22:44:52Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I asked you if you wanted to bet they would be USED. YOU claimed that I wanted to bet that they would affect the outcome, even though I said there would be no way to determine that.
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> Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Oh, so from the beginning you wanted to bet on something completely irrelevant?

Huh. Not sure why you think that makes you less stupid.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/82 "2012-06-23T23:23:35Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Translation: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I guess you’re right, they will be used and by the people who you claimed would use them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So there!

Really? I mean _really_?! Christ, that’s a bad post.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/83 "2012-06-23T23:40:02Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Because going out of their way to be obnoxious gets them and their cause attention? If they _had_ “acted with respect and dignity in the President’s house”, this thread and other discussions of them and what they did wouldn’t exist; and plenty of people and organizations subscribe to the “any attention is good attention” theory of advertizing.

> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> While the rest of us sit there, shaking our heads, and wondering what kind of idiots are piloting their agenda.

True. Fred Phelps brings lots of attention to his cause. But do you think he’s ever won over a single convert?

A better role model would be somebody like Martin Luther King. He realized it wasn’t just about bringing attention to the cause. You also had to convince people to support you in your cause.

It’s a bad strategy to bring attention to your cause if all you do with it is convince people to join the other side.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/84 "2012-06-23T23:40:48Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Really? I mean _really_?! Christ, that’s a bad post.

I thought it was an above-average **magellan** contribution, actually.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/85 "2012-06-23T23:52:14Z")

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> [@Honesty](#):
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> Your statistic shows who has died of HIV. What about the[1.2 million people infected with the virus](http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/index.htm)?
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> - Honesty

You said “millions were dying”. In the three decades since the AIDS crisis, less than one million Americans have died. Way less.

Your bumper-sticker statistics suck.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/86 "2012-06-23T23:53:33Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> Oh, so from the beginning you wanted to bet on something completely irrelevant?
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> Huh. Not sure why you think that makes you less stupid.

Why do you get away with your insults the way you do? Do you wear some kind of speshul hat?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/87 "2012-06-23T23:58:31Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> Why do you get away with your insults the way you do? Do you wear some kind of speshul hat?

This is the Pit. It’s allowed here.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/88 "2012-06-23T23:59:47Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> This is the Pit. It’s allowed here.

Oh, eff. :smack:

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/89 "2012-06-24T00:03:14Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> Why do you get away with your insults the way you do? Do you wear some kind of speshul hat?

What the hell are you talking about, you thunderously stupid thing? Look what forum you’re in.

Nothing makes your knee jerk faster than seeing someone homophobic get insulted, does it? Over and over in the wedding photography thread with your endless whining about the poor, put-upon marriage equality opponents, and now here with this imbecile. What is with you?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/90 "2012-06-24T01:19:24Z")

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**Mister nyx** , surely you remember your special hat. It protects your head from the bad things. You wore it in Mz. Jenkin’s classroom after you started getting the owies from banging your head against the desk. The hat keeps you from having the owies. You don’t want the owies, do you?

You _like_ your special hat. Remember when you took the training wheels off of your bicycle? It was a Schwinn. A shiny blue one. You were nineteen years old. And you rode that bicycle down the whole street! Yes you did. We were all so proud.

But remember the tree? You named it “Boo Radley”. Well that tree jumped out and grabbed you, didn’t it? It was pretty good that you were wearing your speciial hat.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/91 "2012-06-24T01:32:04Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **Mister nyx** , surely you remember your special hat. It protects your head from the bad things. You wore it in Mz. Jenkin’s classroom after you started getting the owies from banging your head against the desk. The hat keeps you from having the owies. You don’t want the owies, do you?
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> You _like_ your special hat. Remember when you took the training wheels off of your bicycle? It was a Schwinn. A shiny blue one. You were nineteen years old. And you rode that bicycle down the whole street! Yes you did. We were all so proud.
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> But remember the tree? You named it “Boo Radley”. Well that tree jumped out and grabbed you, didn’t it? It was pretty good that you were wearing your speciial hat.

:rolleyes:

This helps contextualize your earlier contributions to this thread.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/92 "2012-06-24T01:34:09Z")

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Yeah, I see this as a lot more :rolleyes: than outrageous. Immature knuckleheads go out of their when when accepting a WH honor to be… immature knuckleheads. Ooooh… they flipped off Reagan. How edgy!!

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/93 "2012-06-24T01:44:44Z")

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**John** , regardless of your politics, would use your one opportunity at the White House for a _facebook_ photo? Would you be such a jackass that the POTUS _himself_ has to mention you to the press?

If so, I think I can find another “special helmet” for you.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/94 "2012-06-24T02:07:03Z")

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On reflection, it wasn’t the POTUS himself - it was his underlings: “The White House rebukes”. But still, is that something you would want to do, **John**? Would you be the guy that is “rebuked” by the White House in the national press?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/95 "2012-06-24T02:15:11Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **John** , regardless of your politics, would use your one opportunity at the White House for a _facebook_ photo? Would you be such a jackass that the POTUS _himself_ has to mention you to the press?.

I’d use it for a SDMB avatar 🙂

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/96 "2012-06-24T02:17:33Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I thought it was an above-average **magellan** contribution, actually.

Jesus, I scrolled down quickly and saw **Mister Nyx** post and thought, “he’s gonna get a mod note for altering text in a quote box.” Then I looked up and saw that that was **Magellan’s** _actual post_!  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/97 "2012-06-24T02:23:55Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> Oh, so from the beginning you wanted to bet on something completely irrelevant?

Only after you challenged it, genius.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/98 "2012-06-24T02:26:18Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Only after you challenged it, genius.

No I didn’t. I never challenged that point at all. I didn’t say that the idiots in the anti-marriage-equality movement weren’t stupid enough to try to make hay out of a non-issue. I know exactly how dumb they are. I’m sure they’ll continue flailing like idiots and that this will lead to another campaign just as successful as their campaign against Starbucks.

Anyway, don’t get so defensive. I want to thank you. You and A Monkey With a Gun have done more than any amount of argument from me ever could to illustrate that I’m right. Because just look how fucking stupid the people are who are fussing about this non-issue.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/99 "2012-06-24T02:52:23Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> You and A Monkey With a Gun have done more than any amount of argument from me ever could to illustrate that I’m right.

Right about what, exactly? Are you still holding the position that these two idiots are not douchebags?

That’s really all I was ever arguing. The two went to the White House, wasted the opportunity to make a facebook status, and got rebuked by the White House for showing disrespect.

Is that what you would have done in their shoes?

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-activists-flip-off-reagans-picture/626042/100 "2012-06-24T02:57:38Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Right about what, exactly? Are you still holding the position that these two idiots are not douchebags?

I still hold the position that I don’t give half a shit about something so trivial and unimportant, and magellan01’s and your performances in this thread have helped reassure me that I’m exactly right. Your “retard joke” demonstrates that you are either 10 years old or have the same mentality as a kid that age, which goes a long way to explain your complete lack of perspective. Your fellow in the ‘debate’, magellan01 – well, I don’t think I even need to point out his abject idiocy again.

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> Is that what you would have done in their shoes?

So I either join you in being melodramatically offended about a non-issue, or else I would have done exactly the same thing? Yeah, I shouldn’t be surprised. The black-and-white, all-middles-excluded thing goes along with being 10 years old.

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