# gay agenda

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 12, 2000, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509 "2000-02-12T22:18:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![StarvinMarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@StarvinMarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvinMarvin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/21 "2000-02-15T06:46:00Z")

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Im gonna get in on this one for one reason, the theft of signs in yards. Its childish and it shows that the thieves actually fear that the sign may lead others to vote “because they saw that damn sign”.

Leave it there, put up your opposing sign in your yard, and let the spirit of debate live on. The whole “I stole the sign” thing is so 5th grade. On top of that it makes you just as much the criminal and suppressor you claim the sign bearers to be.

Stupid isnt it? To make yourself a hypocrite for the cause.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/22 "2000-02-14T19:54:00Z")

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> Originally posted by slythe:  
> Actually, this is all a part of the _bi-sexual_ agenda. We figure that in 10 years, all of you will be so confused about the issue that you’ll give up and not care _who_ you sleep with. That’s when we declare victory!

Woo hoo! I always wondered why I had so many bisexual friends - they’re brainwashing me! :eek:

Esprix

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Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/23 "2000-02-14T19:55:00Z")

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> Originally posted by StarvinMarvin:
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> … The whole “I stole the sign” thing is so 5th grade. On top of that it makes you just as much the criminal and suppressor you claim the sign bearers to be.
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> Stupid isnt it? To make yourself a hypocrite for the cause.

Now, Marvin, you wouldn’t be… {gasp} _judging_ someone here, would you? We know how much you frown upon that…

Esprix

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Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.

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**Author:** ![StarvinMarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@StarvinMarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvinMarvin)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/24 "2000-02-14T21:09:00Z")

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You wont drag me into this one, so give up now. I took a “no contest” stance here and wanted no argument. I am just saying, dont subvert and attack others if you want to claim that you are the victim of this. It makes you a hypocrite, and thus nulifies whatever cause you are attempting to defend.

Dear Kettle,

You are black.

Love,  
Pot

GET THE HINT???

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**Author:** ![Lionel\_Mandrake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Lionel\_Mandrake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionel_Mandrake)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/25 "2000-02-15T02:42:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Lionel Mandrake:  
> \*\*God, lawyers are scum!
> 
> “Kill all lawyers!”-- William Shakespeare
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> \*\*

You know, I expected to take a lot of heat for the above. I mean, you know, for inciting murder and all, even if I did use The Bard to do it.But nobody has even mentioned it! The guy I said it to, well, his only reaction was to deny being a lawyer.

Interesting. . .

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“This day is called the Feast of Crispian,” --Henry V

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/26 "2000-02-15T02:48:00Z")

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Hmmm, maybe because he **isn’t** one?

Hey, **Lionel** , what’s your agenda, pal? Why are you being so vitriolic?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/27 "2000-02-15T03:29:00Z")

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ruadh wrote:

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> The First Amendment only prohibits Congress (and, via the Fourteenth Amendment, other government agencies) from abridging freedom of speech.

Or of the press. Or the right of the people peaceably to assemble. Or to petition their government for a redress of grievances. Or them two religion thingies at the beginning.

(No one out-nitpicks tracer! 😉 )

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**Author:** ![mr\_john](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@mr\_john](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_john)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/28 "2000-02-15T14:23:00Z")

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Only lawn sign I erver had up said " Vote NO on Yes" on one side “Vote Yes on No” on the other. That was years ago when there was some city thing goin on and every body in the neighborhood had one up either vote yes on the thing or vote no about half and half. ALL the neighbors was pissed, said I wasn’t taking the thing serious. I used to like to “cut and paste” bumber stickers, One of my favorites was " When Avon is outlawed, only Avon will ask about my grandbaby". First amendment shmirst amendment , shut up and do what your told.

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“Pardon me while I have a strange interlude.”-Marx

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/29 "2000-02-15T15:07:00Z")

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> Originally posted by tracer:  
> **Or of the press. Or the right of the people peaceably to assemble. Or to petition their government for a redress of grievances. Or them two religion thingies at the beginning. (No one out-nitpicks tracer! 😉 )**

_sigh_ tracer, the word “only” in my post was modifying “Congress and other government agencies,” not “freedom of speech.” I would think that would have been obvious from the rest of the thread.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2000, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/30 "2000-02-19T07:10:00Z")

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> **Kill all the lawyers!**
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> You know, I expected to take a lot of heat for the above. I mean, you know, for inciting murder and all, even if I did use The Bard to do it.But nobody has even mentioned it!

perhaps the reason for the lack of reaction is that you didn’t get the quotation right. Why bother arguing with someone who favours hyperbole over accuracy?

_Dick Butcher_: “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.”

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        -- Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene ii, line 67 (Kittredge edition).

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and the stars o’erhead were dancing heel to toe

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2000, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/31 "2000-02-19T08:21:00Z")

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There is something wrong with quietly approving of someone removing a political sign from a neighbor’s lawn, unless you think it would be OK for the same person to remove a political sign from _your_ lawn. Would it be OK?

I don’t approve of Prop. 22, at all. But I do not think it’s cute or funny that someone removed a political sign for Prop. 22 from a person’s lawn. Any more than if someone had removed a sign _against_ Prop. 22 from the same lawn. It’s rude, childish, and diminishes the whole issue, which is a serious one.

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**Author:** ![mr\_john](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@mr\_john](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_john)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2000, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/32 "2000-02-19T14:03:00Z")

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## Davey B, maybe you can change the topic heading. “1st Ammendment in the Grass” , maybe. Maybe I shoulda asked in GQ, but some people tend to hang out in specific boards more than others. I figured this was the one that had folks that might be able to answer my question.I see in the AM rightwing thread that you take a narrower view about topics than I do. ( Though I would like to hear some thoughts from those who DO feel that same sex marriage somehow damages the institution of “traditional” marriage) Since you da boss I guess that’s ok. But you are trampling all over my 1st ammend. rights ,just like all the other… oh sorry. But since you locked that one up and this one seems to have stripped a thread. How did you arrive at the decision that AM on the right was a GQ and not a debate,but this one is a debte? Is it more to do with the replies than original intent? My own decision on between these two would have been the reverse of yours.That way I won’t violate your SD rights. There are the descriptions of the board purposes, but SDMB rules seem to be more open to interpretaion than the constitution and the Bible combined, with the SD moderators as supreme court and Pope combined. ( And this entire reply shoulda been in “About…” as a seperate topic.)

“Pardon me while I have a strange interlude.”-Marx

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2000, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-agenda/17509/33 "2000-02-20T06:21:00Z")

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The OP is shot to hell anyway, so let me ask this;  
If my neighbor put a “Yes on 22” sign in **my** yard, a view I strongly disagree with…  
Who’s 1st ammendment rights are at stake here?  
Forget property rights. Too obvious. 🙂  
Peace,  
mangeorge

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I only know two things;  
I know what I need to know  
And  
I know what I want to know  
Mangeorge, 2000

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