# Gay-bashing versus Christian-bashing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2000, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324 "2000-09-24T01:19:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/41 "2000-09-29T20:57:58Z")

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In reference to the OP, the phrase “Christian-bashing” is such a joke. It just doesn’t happen.

gay-bashing: “Hey, that man has sex with other men! Let’s get him!” (Happens all the time.)

Christian-bashing: “Hey, that man believes Jesus Christ died for our sins! Let’s get him!” (Never happens.)

What you’re confusing for Christian-bashing is a common practice known as “asshole-bashing”. When some groups of Christians publicly state that being gay is evil, or doing some harmless activity they don’t like will lead to eternal suffering and damnation, or some other bullshit, people often say “Man, those guys are assholes!”

If your group keeps doing that, people will start making assumptions about your asshole potential, since you voluntarily joined and participate in that group. The solution: form a new, non-asshole group. Don’t let any of the assholes join.

Sorry for saying “asshole” so much. Hope no one was offended. (Except for the assholes – I hope they were offended all to shit.)

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/42 "2000-09-29T21:02:09Z")

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\*\* Wildest Bill wrote:

Those people that did that how do you know they were “fundies” ? And if they were “fundies” they were not living the way Christ would have them live. They were wrong. Sure there are some wacky people in every sect but why do “fundlementalist” get labeled so poorly? What the OP was trying to say it seems like just because a few fundlemist are crazy it seems like all of us get labeled that way.\*\*

In answer to your last statement, many fundamentalist churches are often rather quiet in their denouncement of the (self proclaimed) fundamentalists who do things such as what **Andygirl** & **Eyke** describe.

I’d be more friendly with them if they’d denounce those who engage in such terrorist tactics like those described above. Their silence speaks volumes.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/43 "2000-09-29T21:23:38Z")

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Wow just noticed I spelled “fundamentalist” wrong.

Freyr,

Just an observation on why they might be quiet maybe they don’t know what to say? I give this as an example. I am not sure if you have kids or not, but if they do something wrong, do you totally denounce them? Or do you not know what to say? After all they are your kids.

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/44 "2000-09-29T23:25:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*
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> \*\*Just an observation on why they might be quiet maybe they don’t know what to say? I give this as an example. I am not sure if you have kids or not, but if they do something wrong, do you totally denounce them? Or do you not know what to say? After all they are your kids. \*\*

Bada bing.

Please tell my why homosexuality is “wrong?”

And even if you do manage to convince me it is “wrong,” who are you to tell me about it in ANY manner? They’re not your kid, they’re often-times strangers.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/45 "2000-09-29T23:42:20Z")

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> a doctor shared his records with the protesters so they knew who had AIDS.

This HAS to be illegal. I hope this doctor is no longer practicing medicine.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2000, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/46 "2000-09-30T07:48:48Z")

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\*\*Wildest Bill wrote:

Just an observation on why they might be quiet maybe they don’t know what to say? I give this as an example. I am not sure if you have kids or not, but if they do something wrong, do you totally denounce them? Or do you not know what to say? After all they are your kids.\*\*

What is this? Now I’m writing press releases for Fundamentalist Christian churches? 😃

**WB** , no I don’t have children. As a gay man, I doubt I will. I also realize I don’t have the patience to be a good parent so I doubt it’ll happen.

Also, there’s a world of difference between disciplining a child and denouncing a adult who’s engaging in terrorist activity.

As for what the churches might say, how about:

We completely denounce those who engage in violence and terrorism against homosexuals and the homosexual community. While we do not agree with homosexuality, we believe the use of violence and terrorism as a method of coercion is totally against biblical teaching, both in the Old and New Testaments.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/47 "2000-10-02T17:53:50Z")

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Freyr,

That was very good pr statement. Ever thought about going in the PR business?

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/48 "2000-10-02T17:58:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sk8rixtx \*  
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> \*sigh
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> Is it a possiblity that we could all just get along as the Human race? Or do I just have my head too far up in the clouds? \*\*

Amen. I’ll do my part.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/49 "2000-10-02T18:29:49Z")

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“It’s always seemed to me rather pointless to disapprove of homosexuality. It’s like disapproving of rain.” - Francis Maude

(With thanks to my beloved **matt\_mcl**.)

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/50 "2000-10-02T19:17:42Z")

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\*\*Wildest Bill wrote:

That was very good pr statement. Ever thought about going in the PR business? \*\*

If you like it so much, please use it. Show it to your minister. Make sure he uses it. Especially when something like what happened in Roanoke, VA occurs or another Matthew Shepard or Billy Jack Gathier.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-bashing-versus-christian-bashing/34324/51 "2000-10-02T19:25:04Z")

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Freyr,

Hey dude I was serious. And if the situation comes up I’ll use it.

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