# Gay.com chat: you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 21, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981 "2003-07-21T19:13:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/21 "2003-07-21T20:54:03Z")

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Stupid ISP… _mutter mutter_

**Otto** , you’re plain jane vanilla compared to the kink-fiend who is \*_jayjay_ 😃

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/22 "2003-07-21T21:09:31Z")

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Shocked! Shocked I say!

I’m as pure as the driven snow. I’m as innocent as an itty-bitty puppy with great big eyes. I’m as vanilla as…as… vanilla ice cream.

_checks that the curtain’s still closed over the “closet”_

I’m hurt by the insinuation. So there!

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/23 "2003-07-21T21:24:20Z")

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Well I have a honey, but I’ll talk to y’uns anyway. 🙂

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/24 "2003-07-21T21:55:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Priam \*  
> \*\*Stupid ISP… _mutter mutter_
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> **Otto** , you’re plain jane vanilla compared to the kink-fiend who is \*_jayjay_ 😃 \*\*

Oh sorry, next time I’ll list off _my_ favorite TV shows too.

smart-aleck kid…

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/25 "2003-07-21T21:58:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*Oh sorry, next time I’ll list off _my_ favorite TV shows too.
> 
> smart-aleck kid… \*\*

Otto loves such shows as: Touched By An Angel, Highway to Heaven, the Flying Nun, the Father Dowling Mysteries, 7th Heaven, Father Murphy, Little House on the Prarie, and Family Affair.

😃

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/26 "2003-07-21T22:01:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \*  
> \*\*Otto loves such shows as: Touched By An Angel, Highway to Heaven, the Flying Nun, the Father Dowling Mysteries, 7th Heaven, Father Murphy, Little House on the Prarie, and Family Affair.
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> 😃 \*\*

Oh WOW. Thats some messed-up shit there! I take it all back, Otto! You are one sick daddy.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/27 "2003-07-21T22:05:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Priam \*  
> \*\*Oh WOW. Thats some messed-up shit there! I take it all back, Otto! You are one sick daddy. \*\*

He also gets aroused by watching any show Aaron Spelling created. We’re talking back to the Mod Squad, and even failed shows like Nightengales. He thinks Herve Villichaize is the sexiest man alive.  
😃 😉

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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/28 "2003-07-21T22:13:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \*  
> \*\*He thinks Herve Villichaize is the sexiest man alive.
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> \*\*

Umm, “alive” might be a strong word. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bryanmaguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bryanmaguire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bryanmaguire)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/29 "2003-07-21T22:55:01Z")

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twink??

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/30 "2003-07-21T23:00:13Z")

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Just because I own _one_ 90210 backpack…

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/31 "2003-07-21T23:01:26Z")

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No worries, Otto. As mentioned in the past, I watch “Dawson’s Creek”. I’m down with that stuff.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/32 "2003-07-21T23:08:05Z")

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I just wanted to be the first straight poster to post in this thread.

Good luck, Priam, although maybe finding people to chat with here instead of [gay.com](http://gay.com) might work better. It worked for me and my wife. She called me a “numpty” in a thread, I IMd her to ask what the hell a numpty was, and the rest, as they say, is a mystery.  
No…history. Yea, that’s it.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/33 "2003-07-21T23:16:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*Just because I own _one_ 90210 backpack… \*\*

He has sexual fantasies about Brenda and Brandon.

😃

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/34 "2003-07-21T23:24:31Z")

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About Brenda? Um, no.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/35 "2003-07-21T23:27:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*About Brenda? Um, no. \*\*

Dylan and Brandon wrestling for top?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/36 "2003-07-22T00:16:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bryanmaguire \*  
> \*\*twink?? \*\*

Intensely young (18-21…anything over that is “old” to them\*), usually hairless by design, either extremely skinny or so perfectly sculpted you know they don’t have a life outside the gym, gay boys. Actually, to truly qualify for the term of opprobium “twink” in my book, you must also have to have the snooty attitude which consists of contempt for any and everything male which does not fit into the above description.

\*And I exaggerate not one whit here…I’ve seen that very qualification in chat biographies. “Don’t be old (over 21)”

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/37 "2003-07-22T00:36:37Z")

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I prefer the term **fetus** for those shallow children. I think it fits better.

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**Author:** ![LauraLittlePony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LauraLittlePony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LauraLittlePony)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/38 "2003-07-22T02:42:47Z")

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One of my best friends, gay, has been banned from [gay.com](http://gay.com) by me. He’s just plain not allowed there!! Besides he is, though attractive, not what they’re looking for.

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**Author:** ![thegaydeceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c6cbf5/32.png) [@thegaydeceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thegaydeceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/39 "2003-07-22T04:00:38Z")

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Intensely young (18-21…anything over that is “old” to them\*), usually hairless by design, either extremely skinny or so perfectly sculpted you know they don’t have a life outside the gym, gay boys. Actually, to truly qualify for the term of opprobium “twink” in my book, you must also have to have the snooty attitude which consists of contempt for any and everything male which does not fit into the above description.

## \*And I exaggerate not one whit here…I’ve seen that very qualification in chat biographies. “Don’t be old (over 21)”

You fellahs have it all wrong.

The term “Twink(ies)” originated out of a declarative statement I made outside of Fran’s Restaurant at 20 College Street in Toronto Canada early in the spring 1968.

It was late-evening, early morning, somewhere around 03:00 Hrs EST I would bet, and a group of us has just left the Roman Baths on Bay Street, hungry as hell and not in much mood for a lot of bullshit.

Bob Jamieson, my partner in crime in those days, turned to me as we were about to enter the restaurant, and suggested that I just might happen to want one of the usual street urchins and thugs that hung about under the restaurant’s canopy. He was a not too bad looking kid, but I wasn’t in the mood to play, so I sort of languidly replied, “What him, Miss Bob, Oh my, he’s nothing but another one of those ‘Hostess Twinkies’, you know, all fucking cake, and no cream, and I you know I simply can’t stand cake.” Within weeks the expression was in wide use throughout the Toronto Gay Ghetto and within two months it has migrated to New York, Chicago, and points beyond. Within a year it had been adopted pretty well everywhere to describe a street hustler of a specific sort, somewhere between Chicken and Rough Trade.

Warren C. E. Austin  
Toronto, Canada.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-com-chat-you-will-never-find-a-more-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy/189981/40 "2003-07-22T04:08:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Weirddave \*  
> \*\*maybe finding people to chat with here instead of [gay.com](http://gay.com) might work better. \*\*

Worked for me…!

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