# Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179 "2003-11-09T04:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/41 "2003-11-10T03:46:27Z")
_oh, good Heavens_ ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/42 "2003-11-10T03:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\* > And whether or not argumentation actually gets anywhere, remember the lurkers_\* Won’t someone think of the lurkers. If you give just 5 words a day, less than the amount of curses you use just to get up in the morning, we can save just one lurker. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/43 "2003-11-10T05:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. B \* > \*\*_oh, good Heavens_ \*\* No, it’s _thank_ Heaven. (For 7-11.) ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/44 "2003-11-10T05:42:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BytopianDream \* > \*\*Won’t someone think of the lurkers. If you give just 5 words a day, less than the amount of curses you use just to get up in the morning, we can save just one lurker. \*\* Why would we want to save lurkers? All they do is not post… ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/45 "2003-11-10T14:03:34Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by Bytopian Dream_ > Originally posted by BytopianDream > Won’t someone think of the lurkers. If you give just 5 words a day, less than the amount of curses you use just to get up in the morning, we can save just one lurker. Every time you start a homophobia thread, God kills a lurker. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/46 "2003-11-10T14:27:04Z")
SO, is **Priam** ranting because he thinks that all topics being currently debated are gay, or because he thinks certain posters turn everything into a gay issue? Or does he think all posters in GD are gay? There’s 7 gays in the title, so maybe there’s 4 more points I missed? Since there’s 10 commandments, there’s also 7 gay connotations mebbe? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/47 "2003-11-10T15:18:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Yeah, but **Jodi** , I’d say that 99% of THAT attitude is coming from **lissener**. \*\* Cite? FYI, it’s my habit to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, so your assertion is just plain wrong, Guin; you have to say something explicitly homophobic before I’ll label you thus. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/48 "2003-11-10T15:21:16Z")
Just out of curiosity… **lissener** by your definition, what makes someone homophobic? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/49 "2003-11-10T15:33:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aries28 \* > \*\*Just out of curiosity… **lissener** by your definition, what makes someone homophobic? \*\* Didn’t we just have a multi-page thread about that? From that trainwreck, I came to the conclusion that a homophobe is someone who doesn’t wholeheartedly and unconditionally agree with everything that **lissener** said. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/50 "2003-11-10T15:40:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \* > \*\*Why would we want to save lurkers? All they do is not post… \*\* by all means, save them! Can you _imagine_ how slow the boards would be if all the lurkers started **posting**???:eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/51 "2003-11-10T15:40:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\*Didn’t we just have a multi-page thread about that? > > From that trainwreck, I came to the conclusion that a homophobe is someone who doesn’t wholeheartedly and unconditionally agree with everything that **lissener** said. \*\* Ahh…I must have missed that one. I’ll go search for it. Basically, what I was wondering is why so many people classify someone who doesn’t agree with them as a homophobe. Maybe I’ll get some insight from searching for the thread. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/52 "2003-11-10T15:46:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > \*\*Cite? > > FYI, it’s my habit to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, so your assertion is just plain wrong, Guin; you have to say something explicitly homophobic before I’ll label you thus. \*\* (cough) bullshit, bullshit (cough) [Gay Children of Homophobes Unite!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219286) > [@](#): > > For the homophobes (defined here as anyone who thinks homosexuals are lesser, or badder, or weaker, or whatever, than heterosexuals; who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior; who thinks homosexuality affects anything but a homosexual’s choice of sexual partner and renders them less desirable or trustworthy as teachers or priests or leaders or soldiers; anyone who thinks homosexuality is a sin): That’s a very small margin of “benefit of doubt” or you’ve just really gotten out of the habit. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/53 "2003-11-10T15:50:33Z")
Here, I’ll save you the trouble. [Homophobes can suck my dick.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220098) [Thanks lissener, maybe I should just quit the SDMB altogether](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220353) Both of them are classics :rolleyes:, and the basis for **Guin** ’s and **Jodi** ’s comments in this thread. Needless to say, when he told me to “suck his dick” and when he asked me “if I swallow”, he didn’t exactly make me sympathetic to his cause. More apathetic, actually. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/54 "2003-11-10T15:52:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\*Didn’t we just have a multi-page thread about that? > > From that trainwreck, I came to the conclusion that a homophobe is someone who doesn’t wholeheartedly and unconditionally agree with everything that **lissener** said. \*\* THen you didn’t read the thread very closely, Airman. Please find me a quote where I called someone a homophobe just for disagreeing with me. Previous such challenges have gone unmet, and even produced apologies. I await either a cite or an apology from you (neither of which I really expect). ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/55 "2003-11-10T15:53:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stpauler \* > \*\*(cough) bullshit, bullshit (cough) > > [Gay Children of Homophobes Unite!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219286) > > That’s a very small margin of “benefit of doubt” or you’ve just really gotten out of the habit. \*\* The benefit of the doubt I give is that I don’t assume someone thinks that way until they demonstrate that they do. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/56 "2003-11-10T15:56:09Z")
You know, airman, I apologize myself, for enabling your hijack of this thread. Please take your shit to the pit and let this thread go on its way. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/57 "2003-11-10T15:57:28Z")
Sorry…Priam…I’m hijacking… I really am not trying to fan the fire but I am curious…if someone thinks homosexuality is a sin then they are a homophobe IYO? Do you honestly think that, **lissener**? ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/58 "2003-11-10T15:59:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > \*\*You know, airman, I apologize myself, for enabling your hijack of this thread. Please take your shit to the pit and let this thread go on its way. \*\* I should take the fall for this one…I brought it up because I was honestly curious as to your definition. Airman just answered what I brought up. My apologies…I’ll just go read the threads referenced. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/59 "2003-11-10T16:28:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > Needless to say, when he told me to “suck his dick” and when he asked me “if I swallow”, he didn’t exactly make me sympathetic to his cause. More apathetic, actually. \*\* But it isn’t just his cause, **Airman**. It’s my cause, too. Does your ire with **Lissener** mean that you do not now support rights for any gay people, including me? Support equal rights for gay people (or not) on the merit of the cause itself, not on the personality of one or two of its supporters. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179/60 "2003-11-10T16:32:02Z")
Gobear, I hope you don’t honestly think that someone who would otherwise have supported gay rights would have his entire view on the subject be altered by one person? I mean, I’m flattered, but I know my voice is not THAT powerful. Seems far more likely to me to be back-justified scapegoating; Airman will blame me because he doesn’t want to take responsibility for his own prejudices. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay-gay/212179.md?page=4)