# Gay heads of State?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-heads-of-state/544470>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-heads-of-state/544470 "2010-06-25T11:10:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-heads-of-state/544470/21 "2010-06-28T22:52:52Z")

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> [@RalfCoder](#):
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> The first to come to mind was [James Buchanan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan#Personal_relationships), the 15th president of the United States. He had a close personal relationship with Alabama senator William Rufus King, close enough that Andrew Jackson referred to King as “Miss Nancy” and “Aunt Fancy”, while Aaron Brown called the pair “Buchanan and his wife”.

In fairness, my circle of friends includes two guys who are very close, and act like a couple when together (tea and scones together etc) but while we slag them we know they aren’t actually gay.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-heads-of-state/544470/22 "2010-06-29T08:15:22Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Not quite what’s sought after here, but the Carlist Rebellion in Spain has a tie as well – it ws an open secret that Queen Isabella II’s cousin and consort Don Francisco de Asis slept with men while the Queen slept with other men, meaning her heir Alfonso XII and her four other surviving children (out of 12 she bore) were all illegitimate, and she should be succeeded by her uncle Carlos and his heirs, legitimate Borbons (Spanish spelling of the House of Bourbon). The legal fiction of Francisco being father to her children meant inheritance could pass through both of them and remain in the Borbon line, preserving Salic-Law inheritance in the ruling house. But with it being public knowledge that Isabella’s children were not his, that meant the heir to Spain’s throne was the son of the Captain of the Guard, Borbon only through his mother, which didn’t count for Salic inheritance. While both Francisco and Isabella would have preferred that penis ensued, whad did in fact ensue was warfare, a revolt by the legitimists.

The inheritance problem came from the previous generation, though. Ferdinand VII seems to have been one of those people who want everybody to love them; he kept swinging from one end of the political spectrum to the other and managing to piss everybody off in the process rather than gain any friends. He elliminated salic law without the consent of any of the Parliaments (Navarra and the Basque Provinces were supposed to have their own Parliaments, separate from everybody else’s), thus the change was legally void. Legally, Isabella did not have the right to be queen, but that’s due to her daddy’s inability to keep his brain on, not to whatever happened with her panties. If being a slut disqualified for the throne, Ferdinand of Aragon wouldn’t have inherited…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-heads-of-state/544470/23 "2010-06-29T08:23:23Z")

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Out of time:

also, Francisco was a consort, not a head of state, and he did not get the children any close to the throne than any other consort would have. The Regnant Queen’s children are in the line of succession because of being the Queen’s children, if one of your parents is #0 and the other one is #15 (invented number), that #15 doesn’t contribute any more than a #134 would have.

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