# Gay Love \> Terrorism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 12, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054 "2011-09-12T15:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/1 "2011-09-12T15:05:28Z")
A noted Okie [del]state legislator[/del] bitch is at it again. I’d like to say something positive about Oklahoma politics and beliefs but it’s just not possible. The state GOP mimics the worst of the national policy: Homophobia, Islamophobia, racist culture(unless regarding OU/OSU football players), official anti-science postures, anti-immigrant stances, on and on. **[Sally Kern Claims Gay Love ‘More Dangerous’ Than Terrorism](http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/140608/sally-kern-claims-gay-love-more-dangerous-than-terrorism/)** ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/2 "2011-09-12T15:11:32Z")
I may be missing some context, but the quoted portion makes it seem like she’s saying HIV/AIDS is more dangerous than terrorism. Still a pretty stupid point, inasmuch as HIV is a mindless virus and terrorism a result of a wilfull set of acts by humans, but not quite the same as saying gay love is more dangerous than terrorism. If she said that safe sex among gays is not as dangerous as terrorism, she’d be on accurate factual ground with that claim. > [@Sally Kern](#): > > In the last twenty years, fifteen to twenty years, we’ve had maybe three terrorist attacks on our soil with a little over 5,000 people regrettably losing their lives. In the same time frame, there have been hundreds of thousands who have died because of having AIDS. So which one’s the biggest threat? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/3 "2011-09-12T15:19:51Z")
Maybe you missed this quote from three paragraphs later: “Every day our young people,” said Kern. “They’re bombarded with ‘homosexuality is normal and natural.’ It’s something they have to deal with every day. Fortunately we don’t have to deal with a terrorist attack every day… It’s more dangerous, and yes I think that it’s also more dangerous because it will tear down the moral fiber of this nation.” Yeah, she sounds like a real humanitarian. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/4 "2011-09-12T15:26:41Z")
She’s right. We should outlaw homosexuality. Other enlightened countries, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, are way ahead of us in this area! ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/5 "2011-09-12T15:27:31Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I may be missing some context, but the quoted portion makes it seem like she’s saying HIV/AIDS is more dangerous than terrorism. The second half of that quote (from a link in the article) and the second quote in the article is more explicitly about homosexuality. > [@](#): > > ``` > You know if you just look at it in practical terms, which has destroyed and ended the life of more people? Terrorism attack here in America or HIV/AIDS? In the last twenty years, fifteen to twenty years, we’ve had maybe three terrorist attacks on our soil with a little over 5,000 people regrettably losing their lives. In the same time frame, there have been hundreds of thousands who have died because of having AIDS. So which one’s the biggest threat? And you know, every day our young people, adults too, but especially our young people, are bombarded at school, in movies, in music, on TV, in the mall, in magazines, they’re bombarded with ‘homosexuality is normal and natural.’ It’s something they have to deal with every day. Fortunately we don’t have to deal with a terrorist attack every day, and that’s what I mean. > > … > > It’s more dangerous, and yes I think that it’s also more dangerous because it will tear down the moral fiber of this nation. We were founded as a nation upon the principles of religion and morality, if we take those out from under our society we will lose what has made us a great nation, we will no longer be a virtuous people, which we see happening already. And without virtue this nation will not survive. > > ``` (If her point was that we overemphisize the danger of terrorism compared to other things, then I’d actually agree with her, but obviously I don’t think homosexuality destroying our “virture” is one of those things.) The earlier quote that the article mentions is also pretty explicitly about homosexuality as an assault on our “virtue” rather then as a threat due to HIV: > [@from Kearns wikipage](#): > > ``` > Studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades. So it's the death knell of this country. I honestly think it's the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam — which I think is a big threat, okay? Cause what's happening now is they are going after, in schools, two-year olds...And this stuff is deadly, and it's spreading, and it will destroy our young people, it will destroy this nation. > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/6 "2011-09-12T15:30:30Z")
She’s an idjit bigot of the first degree. How does she keep getting re-elected? Well, she’s in a very rural area of the center of the buckle on the Bible Belt. Hiya, **smithsb**! Another Okie, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/7 "2011-09-12T17:11:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > She’s right. We should outlaw homosexuality. Other enlightened countries, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, are way ahead of us in this area! What are you talking about? Iran doesn’t have any gay people, remember? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/8 "2011-09-12T17:17:51Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Maybe you missed this quote from three paragraphs later: > > “Every day our young people,” said Kern. “They’re bombarded with ‘homosexuality is normal and natural.’ It’s something they have to deal with every day. Fortunately we don’t have to deal with a terrorist attack every day… It’s more dangerous, and yes I think that it’s also more dangerous because it will tear down the moral fiber of this nation.” > > Yeah, she sounds like a real humanitarian. Yes, I did. I agree that this more closely ties terrorism and general gayness together. My fault for not reading the whole thing. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/9 "2011-09-12T17:30:01Z")
Reminds me of the episode of the Daily Show, the clip was called “Tangled up in Bleu”, and it was about an Arabic cryptolinguist who was discharged under don’t ask don’t tell. They had some doctor on who was saying that the country was SAFER without Bleu in the service anymore, to which the correspondant replied, \*\*“I know I’d rather die in a terrorist attack than suffer through an uncomfortable shower with a _gay_.” \*\*I still burst out laughing, but it’s good to know that there really are people who feel two people of the same sex sharing love and life together is a greater evil than another human being robbing the life of others. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/10 "2011-09-12T17:30:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes, I did. > > I agree that this more closely ties terrorism and general gayness together. My fault for not reading the whole thing. :smack: I think we should nominate General Gayness to lead the fight on terrorism, maybe with some help from Major Butch-Dyke. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/11 "2011-09-12T17:39:41Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I think we should nominate General Gayness to lead the fight on terrorism, maybe with some help from Major Butch-Dyke. The uniforms would be fabulous. We’ve just had a national day of remembrance for the 9/11 terrorist attack. When will we finally have a special day to remember the time two men touched each other? Lest we forget: Sometimes men like to get naked and do things … ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/12 "2011-09-12T17:39:44Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I think we should nominate General Gayness to lead the fight on terrorism, maybe with some help from Major Butch-Dyke. I see where you’re coming from here… We hate terrorists. Terrorists hate gays. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Not a bad plan of action! But remember, if we give General Gayness and Major Butch-Dyke too much power and lattitude, soon they will be taking over eastern Europe and setting up a “Rainbow Curtain” and it’ll be 60 years before we break their \*fabulous \*government and \*divine \*economic policy. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/13 "2011-09-12T17:57:33Z")
> **[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News](https://www.huffpost.com/?err_code=404&err_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2011%2F09%2F12%2Findia-children-hiv-blood-transfusions_n_958147.html)** > > Read the latest headlines, news stories, and opinion from Politics, Entertainment, Life, Perspectives, and more. Lots of ways to get aids. Does she think these kids should die. Sharing needles, sex and transfusions. being born to a mother with aids is another good way. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/14 "2011-09-12T18:07:58Z")
What about gay terrorist?!?! Holy shit! I’ll never sleep again. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/15 "2011-09-12T18:24:46Z")
Promoting homosexuality and suppressing Christianity are the surest ways to destroy a culture. Just look at ancient Rome. They managed to survive as a Christian, anti-homosexual culture for over a thousand years, but once they finally repressed the Christians around 300 ad, within a hundred years the Western Empire was almost demolished. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/16 "2011-09-12T18:26:54Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > What about gay terrorist?!?! Holy shit! I’ll never sleep again. Wake up one morning to a remodeled house and a new wardrobe. The horror. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/17 "2011-09-12T18:36:02Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s more dangerous, and yes I think that it’s also more dangerous because it will tear down the moral fiber of this nation. We were founded as a nation upon the principles of religion and morality, if we take those out from under our society we will lose what has made us a great nation, we will no longer be a virtuous people, which we see happening already. And without virtue this nation will not survive. It has managed to thrive without any. > [@](#): > > Studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades. So it’s the death knell of this country. I honestly think it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam — which I think is a big threat, okay? Cause what’s happening now is they are going after, in schools, two-year olds…And this stuff is deadly, and it’s spreading, and it will destroy our young people, it will destroy this nation. This is probably either the craziest part of her rants or the most blatanly dishonest. What the fuck would be those studies? What mysterious civilization that we obviously have never heard of has embraced homosexuality, and then flamboyantly disappeared? > [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I think we should nominate General Gayness to lead the fight on terrorism, maybe with some help from Major Butch-Dyke. Was looking for a new username, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/18 "2011-09-12T18:44:41Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > What about gay terrorist?!?! They call it _Cirque du Soleil_. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/19 "2011-09-12T19:06:07Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Promoting homosexuality and suppressing Christianity are the surest ways to destroy a culture. Just look at ancient Rome. They managed to survive as a Christian, anti-homosexual culture for over a thousand years, but once they finally repressed the Christians around 300 ad, within a hundred years the Western Empire was almost demolished. Ummm, your dates are funny. They managed to surivive as Christians for over 1,000 years and then collapsed 400 years after the death of Christ? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054/20 "2011-09-12T19:13:51Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I think we should nominate General Gayness to lead the fight on terrorism, maybe with some help from Major Butch-Dyke. Lead by Dick Armey. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-love-terrorism/596054.md?page=2)