# Gay marriage
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [May 11, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622 "2012-05-11T16:22:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/1 "2012-05-11T16:22:16Z")
Let’s put this damn issue to rest already.
Let anyone marry anyone or anything. Mkay?
All the issues we face in this world, and this stupid issue is still beaten to death.
So, here’s a poll. Who’s for it and who’s against it. If against, please explain.
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### Author:  [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/2 "2012-05-11T16:26:45Z")
This may be one of the most predictable polls this board has ever seen. At least I hope so.
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### Author:  [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/3 "2012-05-11T16:28:32Z")
> [@tdn](#):
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> This may be one of the most predictable polls this board has ever seen. At least I hope so.
I should have made it public :smack:
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### Author:  [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/4 "2012-05-11T16:34:33Z")
So you have to be FOR or AGAINST it now? Why can’t you be a DON’T CARE, leave 'em alone type of guy?
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### Author:  [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/5 "2012-05-11T16:57:14Z")
The government should manage civil unions where any two adults can have one.
Then religions can have some extra thing called a “marriage” which the government is free to ignore.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/6 "2012-05-11T17:00:02Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> Let anyone marry anyone or anything. Mkay?
I guess it’s a measure of society’s progress that you can now be supportive of same-sex marriage and express that support using a famous anti-same-sex-marriage cliche.
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### Author:  [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/7 "2012-05-11T17:01:16Z")
> [@hogarth](#):
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> The government should manage civil unions where any two adults can have one.
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> Then religions can have some extra thing called a “marriage” which the government is free to ignore.
Fuck that. If it quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, then it’s a duck. Two people getting together for life is marriage, not a civil union.
But, I do agree with you.
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### Author:  [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/8 "2012-05-11T17:02:18Z")
Simple black and white who’s for or against? Should be easily predictable. How it’s handled? That’s where it gets ugly.
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### Author:  [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/9 "2012-05-11T17:04:34Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#):
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> Simple black and white who’s for or against? Should be easily predictable. How it’s handled? That’s where it gets ugly.
Why?
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/10 "2012-05-11T17:08:15Z")
> [@Musicat](#):
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> So you have to be FOR or AGAINST it now? Why can’t you be a DON’T CARE, leave 'em alone type of guy?
What if you are AGAINST heterosexual marriage?
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### Author:  [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/11 "2012-05-11T17:09:07Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> Why?
Because there is a panoply of ideas and personal perspectives of how marriage (straight and/or gay) should be defined and handled religously, legislatively and socially.
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### Author:  [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/12 "2012-05-11T17:10:29Z")
> [@hogarth](#):
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> The government should manage civil unions where any two adults can have one.
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> Then religions can have some extra thing called a “marriage” which the government is free to ignore.
There’s one huge logistical problem with that. Existing marriages, especially hetero ones, would suffer a change in status. The protest of “Gays want to destroy traditional marriage” would then be true. Better to raise everyone up than to pull a huge amount of the population down.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/13 "2012-05-11T17:12:55Z")
> [@tdn](#):
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> Better to raise everyone up than to pull a huge amount of the population down.
Nobody would be “pulled down” and there would really not be much of a change from the way things are handled now. But I agree it’s not going to happen because this kind of change would be perceived the way you are describing.
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### Author:  [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/14 "2012-05-11T17:28:24Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> I guess it’s a measure of society’s progress that you can now be supportive of same-sex marriage and express that support using a famous anti-same-sex-marriage cliche.
:rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/15 "2012-05-11T17:31:15Z")
Considering I’m in one, I’d say that falls on the “For” category.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/16 "2012-05-11T17:33:50Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> :rolleyes:
What are you rolling your eyes at? “If you let gays marry, you have to let anybody marry anyone or anything” is a very well-worn cliche. It’s been used by hordes of people opposed to gay marriage, from Rick Santorum to Bill O’Reilly on down. I am not trying to dampen your support here because I am always glad to see people getting this right, but it’s a poor statement of the argument. Do you actually think the government should recognize marriages between adults and small children, for example? And I don’t much care personally about the concept of trivializing marriage, but I’m sure you can see where some people would object to “let anyone marry anything.”
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### Author:  [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/17 "2012-05-11T17:37:36Z")
Nothing, personal, **Marley**. It’s just roll-your-eyes at \*\*Marley23 \*\*day. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/18 "2012-05-11T18:01:23Z")
I’m not “for gay marriage.” I’m “for equal rights” witch happens to include gay marriage.
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### Author:  [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/19 "2012-05-11T18:13:48Z")
For me personally? Against it.
For someone who actually is gay, and wants to get married? Fine, why not?
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### Author:  [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-marriage/621622/20 "2012-05-11T18:26:54Z")
> [@hogarth](#):
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> The government should manage civil unions where any two adults can have one.
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> Then religions can have some extra thing called a “marriage” which the government is free to ignore.
The thing is the government is in the marriage business. If a man and a woman go down to city hall they get married by a judge not civil unioned.
As far a religions are concerned if they don’t want to perform gay marriage I guess that is their business. I believe at one time Catholics that were divorced couldn’t get married in a Catholic church, same thing.
A civil union and a marriage aren’t the same thing. Marriage should be for anyone that wants it.
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