# Gay men and women ..................? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 14, 2000, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747 "2000-03-14T22:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ORION\_ORION](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@ORION\_ORION](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ORION_ORION)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2000, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/1 "2000-03-14T22:48:00Z")
Strange title, but this is what I mean: I have the impression that many gay men are interested in women in their own way. They seems to love beautiful women with stylish clothes. They also seems to be very interested in making fashion for women, and most gays have women as “gay icons”. I’m not sure, but maybe gay men deep inside are interested in women after all. Maybe they had a very (too) romantic view on women when they where kids or something. I also have the impression that many hetrosexual couples have problems with their relations because they have to romantic view about being lovers etc. I would like the hear some other views on this ? 😉 **Please try to keep my other post outside this post** ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/2 "2000-03-15T01:48:00Z")
Orion wrote: > [@](#): > > I have the impression that many gay men are interested in women in their own way. They seems to love beautiful women with stylish clothes. So do many heterosexual women, judging from the covers of _Vogue_ and _Cosmopolitan_. ---
**Author:** ![Freedomx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4af34b/32.png) [@Freedomx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freedomx)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/3 "2000-03-15T01:57:00Z")
[Tracer](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000790.html) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/4 "2000-03-15T02:49:00Z")
Orion said: > [@](#): > > most gays have women as “gay icons” And you know this because you’ve done a poll to see what most gays think, right? Or because of the extensive time you’ve spent with gay men? ---
**Author:** ![Doobieous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Doobieous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doobieous)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/5 "2000-03-15T06:48:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by ORION\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*ORION: > **Strange title, but this is what I mean: > I have the impression that many gay men are interested in women in their own way. They seems to love beautiful women with stylish clothes. They also seems to be very interested in making fashion for women, and most gays have women as “gay icons”.** I do? Wow…you know me better than I know myself Orion. \ ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/6 "2000-03-15T13:35:00Z")
Well… Great oafs from little icons grow. ---
**Author:** ![Gilligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Gilligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gilligan)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/7 "2000-03-15T13:54:00Z")
I keep clicking on the gay icons, but “Explorer” opens when I do. Should I take this as a sign? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/8 "2000-03-15T13:55:00Z")
It’s ignore and hyjack time, folks! Considering the recent shake-ups in major league baseball, who do you think has a chance at greatness? Personally, using only logic and reason, I think that my Cubbies are going All_The_Way!! ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/9 "2000-03-15T14:28:00Z")
Yesterday on my way home from dinner, I saw a sign stapled to a utility pole that said: “Gently Loved Children’s Sale” The gently loved children are having a sale? Someone’s selling gently loved children? What? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/10 "2000-03-15T16:38:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Gilligan: > > I keep clicking on the gay icons, but “Explorer” opens when I do. Should I take this as a sign? Yes. 😃 Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/11 "2000-03-16T06:05:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Personally, using only logic and reason, I think that my Cubbies are going All_The_Way!! HAAAAAAAAAAA!!! \ OK, **Slythe** , you just keep on believing that, pal . . . 😃 -andros- ---
**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/12 "2000-03-16T06:50:00Z")
Phouka: “Gently Loved” is a euphemism for “used”. They were selling old kids’ stuff. I think I’m going to start using that when I pass 40. "I’m not old–I’m just ‘gently loved.’ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/13 "2000-03-16T00:27:00Z")
Ah, come on. If UFOs and all-powerful gods are possible, couldn’t a World Series winning Cubs be possible? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/14 "2000-03-16T00:35:00Z")
Some things are beyond omnipotence, **Slythe**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/15 "2000-03-16T01:18:00Z")
Dex wrote: > [@](#): > > Well… Great oafs from little icons grow. I thought the plural of oaf was “oaves”. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/16 "2000-03-16T03:02:00Z")
cher3: > [@](#): > > “Gently Loved” is a euphemism for “used”. So they’re selling “used” children? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/17 "2000-03-16T03:05:00Z")
I _was_ going to use quantum physics to prove that it was possible for the Cubs to come out on top this year(hell, it’s used for every other silly notion!), but I just recieved a restraining order from Stephen Hawkings. He says it’s one thing to use it to explain u.f.o’s, but I was going WAY over the line! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/18 "2000-03-16T05:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by phouka: > \*\*Yesterday on my way home from dinner, I saw a sign stapled to a utility pole that said: > > “Gently Loved Children’s Sale” > > The gently loved children are having a sale? Someone’s selling gently loved children? What?\*\* That reminds me of a commercial for a “Race for Children” or something like that. I couldn’t help getting a mental image of a bunch of people chasing down helpless children. ---
**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-men-and-women/17747/19 "2000-03-17T21:17:00Z")
Speaking of “gently loved children”, who could forget this McDonald’s commercial in which they annonced that they were going to donate some proceeds to a children’s charity: (To the tune of Old McDonald Had a Farm) Go to McDonalds and buy large fries Yum yum yum yum yum And twenty-five cents goes to help some kids Yum yum yum yum yum!