# Gay people caused AIDS! (AKA kfl takes the bait) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427 "2003-09-13T19:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/41 "2003-09-14T05:26:37Z")
Eh, if most heterosexual women were as ugly and stupid as “Laurie” represents h/self to be, I’d switch teams in a _second_. (Even without the toaster-oven & super powers.) ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/42 "2003-09-14T14:13:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RedFury \* > Oh yes, one more thing if I may. _Semen,_ by itself can carry the virus? Doesn’t that mean that once it is absorbed – any which way – it’ll autonatically infect the recipient? Semen and blood are decent carriers of the virus, but the virus has to get into your bloodstream to have a chance of infecting you. Typically you have to have some kind of sore/small tear/etc which the virus can use. (Don’t feel overly secure about not having any of these in your mouth, etc., as **matt\_mcl** pointed out earlier.) The AIDS virus itself - if I recall correctly - is comparatively “fragile,” in that it needs a decent place to reproduce relatively quickly, or it will die. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/43 "2003-09-14T18:59:13Z")
Yup. “Come on me, not in me.” Semen on unbroken skin is not a problem; semen on broken skin or on mucosa is. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/44 "2003-09-14T19:42:39Z")
People eating monkeys? Yeah, right. Let’s get our information from sci-fi, huh? The giant mutant people-eating monkeys are coming to get us! Run! Let’s fight a little ignorance here, people! Here’s how it happened. Don’t let, er, make me explain it again: HIV-infected monkeys turned into gay men because of Evolution. If we could just accept Creation as fact, AIDS never would have happened. And lest you think I’m some sort of homophobe, let me just say that some of my best friends are gay monkeys. OK, I think I need a nap. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/45 "2003-09-14T20:21:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*Yup. “Come on me, not in me.” Semen on unbroken skin is not a problem; semen on broken skin or on mucosa is. \*\* FYI, taking come in the mouth is not necessary for HIV infection–it’s possible, although unlikely, to be infected by precum from oral stimulation. The latests studies I’ve read about also say that while oral sex is a possible route of transmission, the chances of infection are significantly lower than from anal or vaginal sex. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/46 "2003-09-15T00:38:50Z")
Gobear, thanks. I should have included pre-come as well. (Is there a medical term for pre-come? There must be but I’ve never heard it.) ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/47 "2003-09-15T01:10:17Z")
[Technical term](http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-ejaculate) , here you go. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/48 "2003-09-15T01:24:13Z")
Arigatou gozaiimasu. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/49 "2003-09-15T01:28:06Z")
Oh, just gfound an even better term - “Cowper’s fluid!” ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/50 "2003-09-15T01:51:27Z")
iiyo, Cowper’s fluid definitely sounds more medical and sterile. ---
**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/51 "2003-09-15T02:12:01Z")
IMHO, if anyone around here is a monkey-fucker, it’s **Laurie**. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/52 "2003-09-15T02:24:04Z")
I guess she wants a girl just like the girl that married dear old Dad. with thanks to Otto ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/53 "2003-09-15T06:34:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by norinew \* > \*\*IMHO, if anyone around here is a monkey-fucker, it’s **Laurie**. \*\* Not this monkey :). Thats right… wasn’t somone getting pitted? Laurie, Laurie? People are posting dissenting opinions, care to defend yourself. Laurie? Guess she had to run, matbe the streetlights came on… ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/54 "2003-09-15T06:34:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by norinew \* > \*\*IMHO, if anyone around here is a monkey-fucker, it’s **Laurie**. \*\* Not this monkey :). Thats right… wasn’t somone getting pitted? Laurie, Laurie? People are posting dissenting opinions, care to defend yourself. Laurie? Guess she had to run, maybe the streetlights came on… ---
**Author:** ![Backslider108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f05b48/32.png) [@Backslider108](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backslider108)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/55 "2003-09-15T07:03:55Z")
This may not be the place for it, but I’ve always wondered about that old canard concerning AIDS being God’s judgement on homosexuals. What gets me is…what took him so long, then? You read the Old Testament, the Big G is smiting folks left and right, and just as soon as they do whatever deed what ticks the Almighty off? Gay folks have been around for a loooong time, so why did it take God until the last half of the 20th Century to render his almighty wrath on them? He get caught up in a really good book or something? ---
**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/56 "2003-09-15T07:44:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by supervenusfreak \* > **Worldwide far more heterosexuals are infected than gay men.** Cite please? I find that very interesting considering [this](http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/gca?gca=146%2F4%2F350&sendit=Get+All+Checked+Abstract%28s%29) study done in California. I’d be interested in seeing some stats. -LC ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/57 "2003-09-15T08:00:32Z")
**Linear Crack** , you only have to look as far as the crisis in Africa to see that AIDS is not a “gay disease.” [http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/AIDS/10/31/africa.aids.ap/](http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/AIDS/10/31/africa.aids.ap/) > [@](#): > > Because African women most often have sexual relations with older men who are more likely to be infected, the females get the disease earlier and die before completing their reproductive years, which further reduces births. > > Worldwatch said Africa faces a shortage of women that is unique in the world. > > After wars, countries often face shortages of males, as France did after World War I and Russia after World War II. > > “This epidemic, however, is claiming more females than males in Africa, promising a future where men will outnumber women 11 to 9. This will leave many men bachelors or forced to migrate to other countries in search of a wife,” the report said. Sorry I can’t be arsed to find real numbers. I’m off to bed. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/58 "2003-09-15T08:28:30Z")
> [@](#): > > What gets me is…what took him so long, then? You read the Old Testament, the Big G is smiting folks left and right, and just as soon as they do whatever deed what ticks the Almighty off? If you’ll forgive me for repeating myself, around the time Jerry Falwell was saying that September 11 was God’s punishment for tolerating homosexuality, I had to wonder, “If God’s so arsed about it, why not attack some countries that _really_ tolerate homosexuality? Crash planes into the CN Tower and the North Sea reclamation works in the Netherlands? A giant phallic symbol and a bunch of dikes, even!” ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/59 "2003-09-15T10:10:22Z")
Hey, lay off the Netherlands! Our homos are doing nothing wrong, they just sit around smoking weed all day. They’re far too fucked up to infect anyone with HIV. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427/60 "2003-09-15T14:27:43Z")
I’m not going to read any flames, i just want statistics. I, myself, had unprotected vaginal intercourse 8 times over the course of about 8 months, in order to become pregnant. My husband had AIDS. What are the odds that i successfully bucked? No One SHould Ever Try This. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-people-caused-aids-aka-kfl-takes-the-bait/201427.md?page=4)