# Gay porn question

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**Created:** [June 28, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082 "2013-06-28T02:18:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/1 "2013-06-28T02:18:42Z")

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I know there’s a divide in lesbian porn. There is lesbian porn that’s marketed to straight men and there’s lesbian porn that’s marketed to gay women.

But not having an interest in exploring gay male porn, I don’t know if the same divide exists in that genre. Are there some videos that are marketed at gay men and some videos that are marketed at straight women? Or is all gay male porn pretty much aimed at a common audience? (For that matter, are there enough straight women who buy gay male porn to make it financially worth marketing movies to them?)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/2 "2013-06-28T02:25:08Z")

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Slightly on topic are Japanese [Yaoi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi) manga and animation. Typically it involves two young beautiful men having sensual butt-hole encounters.

It’s marketed to women, but I’m sure some gays and even straights follow them.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/3 "2013-06-28T02:28:09Z")

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Live action/photographic stuff is pretty much all for gay men.

There exists, however, genres of anime & manga - BL and yaoi - that are gay romances/smut aimed at a female reader/viewership.

And, of course, the fanfic genre of slash.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/4 "2013-06-28T02:39:40Z")

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It’s not unheard of, and the exclusion of photographic/video porn (“hardcore porn”) doesn’t seem to hold much water…

> **[I love gay male porn](https://www.salon.com/2011/10/14/i_love_gay_male_porn/)**
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> A straight woman has a thing for guy-on-guy action and wants to know: \\"What\\'s up with that?\\"

[http://cockyandrude.com/2012/03/26/straight-girls-gay-porn/](http://cockyandrude.com/2012/03/26/straight-girls-gay-porn/)

> **[Why Are Straight Women So Obsessed with Gay Sex?](https://www.gawker.com/5615899/why-are-straight-women-so-obsessed-with-gay-sex)**
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> It's a bit of a joke that straight guys are into "hot girl-on-girl action," but what's new is the burgeoning industry of "M/M romances," erotic novels about gay men written by and for straight women. What's that about?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/5 "2013-06-28T03:03:14Z")

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Purely anecdotal, but most women I know who are turned on by two men prefer the softcore premium cable type stuff (_True Blood_, _Queer as Folk_) with kissing and nudity and fondling to the real stuff with rimming and penetration and the like.

Though I did have one she-friend who admitted to being very turned on by Corbin Fisher videos. Corbin Fisher is a high-end (no pun intended) gay pornographer whose guys are some of the most gorgeous in the biz and whose videos have great production values (lighting and camera work, etc.- and it _does_ make a difference).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/6 "2013-06-28T13:47:12Z")

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I’ve also heard of lesbians who enjoy watching gay male porn. No, I don’t understand that one, either.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/7 "2013-06-28T14:08:01Z")

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So the consensus seems to be that straight women who are interested in gay male hardcore videos (as opposed to other forms of porn) are watching the same videos are gay men - there’s no separate video genre for straight women.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/8 "2013-06-28T14:15:57Z")

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Does gay male porn have facials like in straight porn?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/9 "2013-06-28T14:29:57Z")

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No, gay men are notoriously fussy. All porn shoots end with the participants cumming on tissues which are placed via gloved hands in the trash which is immediately taken out and all surfaces and participants are scrubbed down with lysol wipes.  
Yes, they often have facials and bukkake videos.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/10 "2013-06-28T14:34:28Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> No, gay men are notoriously fussy. All porn shoots end with the participants cumming on tissues which are placed via gloved hands in the trash which is immediately taken out and all surfaces and participants are scrubbed down with lysol wipes.

I’d like to see one of those.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/11 "2013-06-28T15:32:41Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Slightly on topic are Japanese [Yaoi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi) manga and animation. Typically it involves two young beautiful men having sensual butt-hole encounters.
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> It’s marketed to women, but I’m sure some gays and even straights follow them.

Sensual Butt-Hole Encounters is the name of my Wham! cover band.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/12 "2013-06-28T16:02:50Z")

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As a woman who really enjoys forms of entertainment focusing on gay men, porn or otherwise, I can tell you the vast majority of us don’t really care one way or another over filmed porn. It’s more about the relationships and the angst and drama. And as with all porn, there’s not much of that in gay porn. Of course, don’t get me wrong, we enjoy ‘buttsex’ viewing too but in general it’s either written or drawn. Yes, yaoi is huge. It’s been getting bigger and bigger as the years go on. I’d even wager it’s the preferred form of entertainment for women like me. It’s almost evolved to describe any form of fictional media that involves gay men and doesn’t just refer to Japanese based things anymore. It’s just everywhere and in every form you could think of. Fictional stories, erotica, comic books, manga, webcomics, anime, fanfics, fanart. I’m not as ‘rabid’ of a fan of it as I used to be, but I can guarantee you, that unlike most men who enjoy lesbian things, women who are into this are hardcore. It’s almost scary really lol

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/13 "2013-06-29T15:14:23Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> No, gay men are notoriously fussy. All porn shoots end with the participants cumming on tissues which are placed via gloved hands in the trash which is immediately taken out and all surfaces and participants are scrubbed down with lysol wipes.  
> Yes, they often have facials and bukkake videos.

Thanks for that one! Started my day with a laugh!😃

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/14 "2013-06-29T18:03:03Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’ve also heard of lesbians who enjoy watching gay male porn. No, I don’t understand that one, either.

Doesn’t shock me at all. Gay porn is nicely free of the low-level misogyny that can be hard to avoid in straight porn. And I don’t see any reason a lesbian couldn’t enjoy fantasizing about men or have a visual interest in male bodies.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/15 "2013-06-29T18:42:09Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Doesn’t shock me at all. Gay porn is nicely free of the low-level misogyny that can be hard to avoid in straight porn. And I don’t see any reason a lesbian couldn’t enjoy fantasizing about men or have a visual interest in male bodies.

Not all straight porn is misogynist. There’s plenty of what’s generally known as “couples” porn (ie porn that won’t offend a woman).

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/16 "2013-06-29T18:56:17Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Sensual Butt-Hole Encounters is the name of my Wham! cover band.

Damn! I was beaten to the “band name!” post, but I was gonna drop the plural to make it _Sensual Butthole Encounter_, which reminds me a lot of the (real band name) _Airborne Toxic Event._

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/17 "2013-06-29T19:01:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Not all straight porn is misogynist.

Hence “hard to avoid,” not “impossible to avoid.”

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/18 "2013-06-29T19:52:57Z")

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I haven’t looked at any hardcore porn in years, but I always found straight sex portrayals kind of boring, especially cunnilingus scenes. Gay porn was much more interesting, if the guys were cute (not shaved head steroid muscle freaks) and weren’t doing anything too gross or violent. Just couldn’t ‘identify’ with the woman getting nailed, it looked dull and painful - finish up, already! And I don’t particularly care for ‘storylines and relationships’ to pad it out or pretty it up. Maybe there’s something wrong with me.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/19 "2013-06-29T19:56:48Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Hence “hard to avoid,” not “impossible to avoid.”

No, I’d say misogynist porn is easy to avoid.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-porn-question/662082/20 "2013-06-29T22:55:53Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> No, gay men are notoriously fussy. All porn shoots end with the participants cumming on tissues which are placed via gloved hands in the trash which is immediately taken out and all surfaces and participants are scrubbed down with lysol wipes.

I was well into this paragraph before detecting the irony.

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