# Gay Pride Marchers With Jewish Flags Told To Leave Chicago Parade **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 26, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875 "2017-06-26T02:07:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/101 "2017-06-29T04:51:25Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’m Jewish…The Israeli flag has two blue lines, as well as the star. The lines are important, because they echo a typical prayer shawl. The flag is a prayer shawl with a Jewish star in its middle… > [@Green\_Bean](#): > > The Israeli flag isn’t “supposed to look like a prayer shawl.” Those typically have multiple stripes. The symbolism does _evoke_ the symbolism of a prayer shawl, though. I’ll let you guys talk amongst yourselves about that. I was just reporting what some Jewish guy told me. (Emphasis added) Perhaps when you resolve that we can move on to angels dancing on the tip of the MD. > [@](#): > > If you saw a star on a flag and just assumed it was an Israeli thing that’s your error. :roll eyes: “A star”? “A STAR”? Why is this star different from every other star? Look. Israel is a Jewish state, and it’s Flag has Jewish symbolism on it. The idea that there is some bright line between Jewish Symbolism as represented by the MD and Israeli Symbolism as represented by the MD is laughable. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/102 "2017-06-29T05:06:26Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > …The organizers did not act reasonably. Their actions made one of their own actually unsafe at an event where she should have been safe. Were they antisemites, or just some other flavor of asshole? I suspect some of both, but it doesn’t really matter. They acted in a way that made thousands of lesbians across the US feel unsafe at lesbian events. They made the world a worse place. This and exactly this is why I am so pissed off about the actions of the organizers. Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/103 "2017-06-29T10:44:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > :roll eyes: “A star”? “A STAR”? Why is this star different from every other star? You know, I thought about adding in the word “Jewish” before “star,” but I thought it was blatantly obvious what I was talking about that only a person being deliberately obtuse would claim to misunderstand it. > [@](#): > > Look. Israel is a Jewish state, and it’s Flag has Jewish symbolism on it. The idea that there is some bright line between Jewish Symbolism as represented by the MD and Israeli Symbolism as represented by the MD is laughable. Let’s just assume you said “difference” rather than “bright line” because by using that term you’re misrepresenting what people have said. I’m sure you did not mean to do that. Of course there are differences in the way the Star of David is used in different contexts and what it’s intended to mean. Examples: Israeli flag: “We’re a Jewish state.” On a menorah: “This is a Jewish ceremonial item.” On a necklace worn by me: “I’m Jewish.” On a necklace worn by Mr. T: I have no idea what it means because he’s a Christian, [but it looks nifty.](https://goo.gl/images/Q1DW3p) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/104 "2017-06-30T21:36:39Z")
Just FTR, here is the Dyke March’s statement on the issue. [https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/](https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/105 "2017-06-30T22:33:25Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Just FTR, here is the Dyke March’s statement on the issue. > > [https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/](https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/) That partially assuages my concerns about this incident, though I’ll disagree with them that Zionism is inherently white supremacist. Perhaps the form of Zionism that they describe (settlements and forced removal of Palestinians) is white supremacist, but there are plenty of Zionists who oppose the settlements. My understanding of Zionism is simply that there should be a Jewish state in order to ensure Jews have somewhere safe in the world to live. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/106 "2017-06-30T22:48:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Zionism is inherently white supremacist I have been good. I’ve been quiet. I’ve kept out of this. But this line is Christmakwanzakkuh come early. It’s like saying the ACA is Socialist. Hell, it’s like saying the modern DNC is Socialist. There’s no realm of existence where that sentiment is not absurd on its face. Maybe they can walk it back. Maybe I’m Grand Wizard Moishe Cohen. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/107 "2017-06-30T22:55:01Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > You know who would have loved this. **Okrahoma**? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/108 "2017-07-01T00:07:27Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Just FTR, here is the Dyke March’s statement on the issue. > > [https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/](https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2017/06/27/chicago-dyke-march-official-statement-on-2017-march-and-solidarity-with-palestine/) > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That partially assuages my concerns about this incident, though I’ll disagree with them that Zionism is inherently white supremacist. Perhaps the form of Zionism that they describe (settlements and forced removal of Palestinians) is white supremacist, but there are plenty of Zionists who oppose the settlements. My understanding of Zionism is simply that there should be a Jewish state in order to ensure Jews have somewhere safe in the world to live. Is it their position that it is impossible to simultaneously support the existence of Israel and a Palestinian state? 'Cos that position would be WACK. ETA: Maybe it’s only Jews who can’t support the existence of both. Or does this goy’s support for the existence of Israel make me a Zionist? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/109 "2017-07-01T06:53:53Z")
These marchers need to be Sephardi majority next year. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875/110 "2017-07-01T08:06:48Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I have been good. I’ve been quiet. I’ve kept out of this. > > But this line is Christmakwanzakkuh come early. It’s like saying the ACA is Socialist. Hell, it’s like saying the modern DNC is Socialist. There’s no realm of existence where that sentiment is not absurd on its face. > > Maybe they can walk it back. Maybe I’m Grand Wizard Moishe Cohen. Did you read the five words before the part of the quote you snipped? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gay-pride-marchers-with-jewish-flags-told-to-leave-chicago-parade/789875.md?page=5)