# Gays admit they recruit? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 11, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248 "2006-08-11T03:10:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/81 "2006-08-12T01:54:40Z")
> [@Misscegnist](#): > > whoops - sorry, I just re-read my post, is a little arguementative - just wanna say that I AGREE with Relevant Threshold (shoulda previewed) It doesn’t really seem like you’re agreeing, but… ok. 🙂 Just for clarification, i’m not saying it’s the enjoyment of sex with a person of the same gender that makes you gay/bi - as **Misscegnist** says, on a purely physical level you’re going to enjoy sexual stimulation. It’s your mind that influences how much you enjoy that action. What I am saying is that if you’re \*actively seeking out \* sex with another guy/girl - you have an interest in it - then yeah, you’re already at the least bi-curious. The actual physical act doesn’t create that (though obviously depending on your enjoyment it may influence it). To use the words of the OP - you’re not “being recruited”, you’re already a member (pun intended). > [@](#): > > As to the recruitment question, I have no doubt that there would be a some gays > that hearing my feelings would try to explore further and get me to try…does this amount to recruitment? IMHO - yep. Does it matter, or make gays evil? nope. Er, seeing as how you’re married, those people (gay or otherwise) who would try to have sex with you _would_ be pretty immoral. And generally “I might be bi, I might not” is really not the biggest turn on (at least for me); what if you realise you’re really, really not partway through sex? Awk-ward. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/82 "2006-08-12T03:04:10Z")
> [@Misscegnist](#): > > Now try to tell me that there is a substancial difference in the **physical** aspect of a women’s mouth and guys mouth during fellatio (skill level aside). Well, the beard can tickle a little. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/83 "2006-08-12T03:05:14Z")
Thank you for sharing that. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/84 "2006-08-12T03:55:26Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Well, the beard can tickle a little. Hey, some women have beards too. ;j ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/85 "2006-08-12T05:19:52Z")
> [@Misscegnist](#): > > So that means that if I get “blown” and “enjoy” it, I am gay - so how would masturbation tally with this arguement? If I can turn myself on, and climax, does that mean > a) I am gay because I am excited by a guy? > b) I am “in love” with myself? Are you implying that you think about \*\*\*yourself \*\*\*when you masturbate? That would raise the question of whether narcissists are, by definition, gay. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/86 "2006-08-12T05:27:39Z")
“It was really scary first time I had sex. It was dark, I was all alone…” - Rodney Dangerfield ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/87 "2006-08-12T05:46:43Z")
As a guy who used to fix commercial equipment, some of it in gay bars, I can attest that some small percentage of gay guys, drunk or sober, can be obnoxiously persistent when hitting on you - even after you tell them that you’re straight, and that you’re not the least bit interested. But then, as many women will tell you, some straight men can get pretty darn obnoxious when they’re feeling amorous - why should gay men be any different? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/88 "2006-08-12T12:44:32Z")
> [@GLWasteful](#): > > I was under the impression that Anita (the anti-fag hag ((thanks **Annie-Xmas** ))) Bryant had come out (heh) with her polemic before '87. I was thinking early eighties, but am more than willing to have my ignorance fought. Did this actually start with Swift? Or Bryant? Thanks \*\* GLWasteful\*\* but you deserve some of the credit for orginally calling her a “old hag.” Her book is quite a read in anti-gay hatred raised to an extreme level. She blames the homosexuals for having her proposed TV show cancelled. No, it was cancelled because the sponser (Singer Sewing Company) didn’t appreciate your political views. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/89 "2006-08-12T13:51:49Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > - > > \*AKA Eton. 😃 Or should that be what I orginally read ELTON. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/90 "2006-08-12T16:20:06Z")
Good responses, everybody. It would appear that it’s far from common knowledge that gays “virtually admit” that they recruit, as David Limbaugh attests. I want to take this same point (and the same plug for my own website) to a conservative web site. I’m sure I’ll get some rather different responses. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/91 "2006-08-12T21:56:46Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > I want to take this same point (and the same plug for my own website) to a conservative web site. I’m sure I’ll get some rather different responses. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? Let’s not start a board war! ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/92 "2006-08-12T22:16:58Z")
I’m a straight man. On more than once occasion, gay men have used the following line in their attempts to reel in a breeder: _How do you know you won’t like it if you haven’t tried it before?_ The line is probably included in the “Responses to the Reluctant” apologetics guide that is standard issue to all gay recruiters. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/93 "2006-08-13T00:11:00Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Let’s not start a board war! I don’t mind them going after me on my own [board](http://squeakywheelsblog.com/comments/). I won’t mention the Straight Dope. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/94 "2006-08-13T00:31:48Z")
Oh, sure, like you won’t brag on it! ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/95 "2006-08-13T00:47:34Z")
> [@](#): > > How do you know you won’t like it if you haven’t tried it before? Gee, I thought that was in the _straight_ recruitment guide (at least, I heard it over and over when I would tell people I was lesbian). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/96 "2006-08-13T01:01:53Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Thanks \*\* GLWasteful\*\* but you deserve some of the credit for orginally calling her a “old hag.” Her book is quite a read in anti-gay hatred raised to an extreme level. She blames the homosexuals for having her proposed TV show cancelled. No, it was cancelled because the sponser (Singer Sewing Company) didn’t appreciate your political views. Well that does it-when I finally buy a sewing machine, it’s definitely going to be a Singer. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/97 "2006-08-13T01:46:14Z")
This thread is quite fabulous… er, _fascinating_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bagkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bagkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagkitty)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/98 "2006-08-13T22:45:50Z")
If I can drag your attention away from the **Gay Agenda** for a few moments and direct it towards the **Gay Minutes** , you will see that the recruitment committee has submitted their final report saying that current recruitment efforts have been a total failure. “Despite the best efforts of our operatives on Madison Avenue, advertising directed at queering the attractive portion of the male population has resulted only in the proliferation of the dreaded _metrosexuals_ who, despite being purchased many, many martinis, still refuse to “put out” at the end of the evening. The committee has suggested that we issue a formal apology to straight women everywhere for the results of this misguided recruitment effort.” A minority on the committe are suggesting we retain the “seduction by inebriation” strategy employed by many of our college chapters. The majority, however, question whether the _six-pack gays_ truly qualify, and some have suggested that the current shortage of toasters for new members may be the result of the profligate awarding of toasters to said _six-pack gays_. The Central Committee is considering addressing the entire “seduction by inebriation” strategy under new business in the next edition of the **Gay Agenda**. Bagkitty, recording secretary for the **Gay Minutes**. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/99 "2006-08-13T23:42:25Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > BTW, note that Bro Limbaugh used what we call “weasel wording”. He said: _some of them virtually admit they do_. Virtually? If he’s so sure, why hedge? I think he used the term “virtually” as he must often runs across what he considers recruitment when he’s spending a lot of time in the gay cyber chat rooms. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248/100 "2006-08-14T00:22:50Z")
**bagkitty** , that was a beaut. “apologize to straight women for proliferating metrosexuals”… 😃 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-admit-they-recruit/368248.md?page=6)