Interesting how there was a bigger disparity among Democrats. I bet this aspect of this thread gets very little discussion here on the SDLDMB.
Except where it was mentioned in the OP, you mean?
Anyway, I’m not sure the fact that more Republicans were against it no matter how it was worded is really something I’d want to brag about if I were you (which, thankfully, I’m not).
I’m well aware it was mentioned in the OP. I said it wouldn’t get much discussion, imnplying in posts fokkowing the OP (and mine).
I am not a Republican. So, I’m not bragging about “my side.”
So, you’re 0 for 2, bub. What else you got?
As usual, The Simpsons explains what’s wrong.
Homer, John is a homo (yes…) sexual. AHHWAA!!
Oh, all right, if you’re going to be disappointed if no one does it: ha ha, democrats have smaller vocabularies than republicans!
Happy now?
Don’t forget those filthy thespians and public masticators.
But wouldn’t a gay homosexual be . . . straight? You know, like a double negative being a positive.
I’m masticating like a motherfuck!
Quite true.
It’s why you see conservatives referring to “homosexual marriage” (usually with scare quotes) while liberals refer to “Equal marriage rights”. Each side trying to use a term that pre-disposes people to support their side.
But according to this study, the reason liberals would want to use a term like that is not to spook other liberals. Despite all their lofty rhetoric, their support for an issue drops precipitously after a simple word change.
The sub-group among whom the word change would most alter support is the group that most supports the repeal. You wouldn’t expect much change among a group with higher percentages opposing repeal regardless of what you call it. But somehow you spin this to indicate that Democrats are all talk. Like many Republicans who support gay rights, you find it necessary to believe that your party is somehow not objectively much worse on the primarily civil rights issue of our day.
Ah… BUT: the article identifies the poll respondents’ (presumably self-declared) political alignments NOT as “liberals” v. “conservatives” (ideology) but rather as Democrats v. Republicans (electoral voting pattern). What that then suggests to me about that difference is that the Dems’ pattern of coalition building, as opposed to the Reps’ harder-edged line, ends up with the set of self-identified “Democrats” containing a comparatively larger subset of those who are just barely leaning to this side of the fence, and who have to be nuanced into staying on the same page. Which as a lifelong Democrat stopped surprising me long ago.
Here’s the complete poll. Some interesting results in there and at the end is the break down of respondents. There are no crosstabs breaking down the responses by group despite the article doing so (looking around, this seems to be typical for CBS/NYT poll results postings), any one know why?
The first part of your post has some merit, and I agree that that is one part of explaining the discrepancy.
The second part of your post, especially the bolded part, is complete shit. I’m not a Republican. Most Republicans would hate me if they knew me (hint: I’m an atheist).
Sorry, I was under the impression you voted for John McCain in the last election.
You forgot E) French horn.
What, they didn’t allow any rear admirals to participate?
While I think there’s something to be said about the ‘sex’ in homosexual, I also think it’s worth pointing out that only one of the categories explicitly includes women (whereas I’ve read a number of op eds about homosexuals that seems to exclude them completely form the category of ‘homosexual’ i.e. rants about high instances of AIDS). It’s odd though that they didn’t just write ‘gay men and women.’ Maybe some people think ‘lesbians’ and think ‘lesbian porn? I like that!’?
It was not the subject of the poll or the discussion. He wondered how people can vote for Gay but not homosexual. But I suppose you would rather it be about the apparent Dem problem. Wonder what Libertarians said?
People who masticate openly in public should not be allowed to serve in the military or anywhere. Maybe we could get a “basic manners” course added to basic training?
Mooseburger.