# Gays vs. Bible  - huh?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941 "2005-11-07T18:57:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/1 "2005-11-07T18:57:57Z")

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Some background - There is a long exchange on a women’s basketball board about Sheryl Swoopes’ recent coming out as a lesbian. One poster stated that he’d no longer attend games due to this deviant influence. Other posters have taken him to task, and one quoted a biblical passage in which Christ has the radial notion that one should love others. This is what Mr. Promiskeeper wrote in response:

You have chosen to take "_God is Love. He who abides in love abides in God, and God in him"_ out of the bible, what happens to the rest of the Bible, it doesnt line up with your own liberal thinking and so it is just cast aside as something man has written, I would guess this is the case. Please give me your definition of “love”. I would suppose that your definition means that God should let anyone and everyone do whatever they want because He “loves” them. If you have any children I would suppose that you love them in that way too. You let them run into busy intersections, you let them stick hair pins into wall receptacles and at the tender age of 5 years old you let them watch XXX rated movies, because you LOVE them, right? Well sorry to bust your bubble but the God of the bible was not only a compasionate, merciful, forgiving God, He is also a RIGHTEOUS God, perfect in every way. He has set up guidelines, just as I am sure you have with your children because He LOVES us so much that He would rather not see us destroy our lives doing things that HE knows will do just that. As a matter of fact God loved us so much that He let His only Son die to pay the price for our sin. Doubt very seriously your kind of love agrees with Gods kind of Love. And by the way I do Love Sheryl, I love her so much that I cant agree with the lifestyle that she leads, because it is destructive, why is it destructive…because Gods word say… _“But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death”._ Sheryls sin will lead to death. But of course I am sure this is one of the passages of the bible you are chosing not to believe.

Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Kettle, I give you Mr. Pot.

I have no words, really, to describe how terribly hypocritical I find it that person one is picking and chosing one specific bible passage to discredit another person who has done the same. BUT I do know that this sanctimonious ass-wipe needs a good pitting.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/2 "2005-11-07T19:03:27Z")

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Great rant. You’ll find a lot of threads devoted to Christianity and the gay orientation in Great Debates, and more than a few here in the Pit.

It reminds me of a T-shirt I once saw: “Jesus Loves you. But most of His followers think you’re disgusting.”

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/3 "2005-11-07T19:04:24Z")

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This just in, self-righteous asshole on a different board uses the Bible to justify anti-gay asshattery. Film at eleven.

Pittable? Sure, but it barely raises the offense-o-meter around here.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/4 "2005-11-07T19:04:42Z")

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Let him have it, dude. Oh, but this is clearly incorrect:

> [@Long Time First Time](#):
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> If you have any children I would suppose that you love them in that way too. You let them run into busy intersections, you let them stick hair pins into wall receptacles and at the tender age of 5 years old you let them watch XXX rated movies, because you LOVE them, right?

Let? No. We **make** the little buggers watch XXX rated movies, lest we risk them not being well-rounded enough when they grow up.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/5 "2005-11-07T19:23:23Z")

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By a curious coincidence, I saw something very like that. Watching the kids for a friend who had purchased a box full of tapes at a garage sale, Disney stuff, so on and so forth. A gaggle of crumb snatchers, aged 5-7 rummaged through them, squabbling over what to watch first, and found one without a label, popped it in, and bingo! _In flagrante delicious_ I was in the next room and was moving to intercede toot sweet but my curiosity got the better of me. What would happen, I wondered.

Not much. “Ewwwww!” from one munchkin.

“Thats how babies are made!” from another.

“Really?” asked a third

“Yep, my Mom told me.”

“Hey, look! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!”

“Cool!”

End of corruption of little minds. Hard to corrupt people who aren’t interested.

Employing time honored methods of distraction (“Cookies in the kitchen!”), I withdrew the tape in question. So far as I can tell, long term destructive effects were at a minimum.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/6 "2005-11-07T19:35:20Z")

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Good job **elucidater** , now that you didn’t impress upon the tykes the pure evilness of the human reproductive function, those kids are destined to life of a decadence, debauchery, perversion, death-worship, and possibly even liberalism. Who taught you to take care of kids, Susan Smith?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/7 "2005-11-07T20:44:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By a curious coincidence, I saw something very like that. Watching the kids for a friend who had purchased a box full of tapes at a garage sale, Disney stuff, so on and so forth. A gaggle of crumb snatchers, aged 5-7 rummaged through them, squabbling over what to watch first, and found one without a label, popped it in, and bingo! _In flagrante delicious_ I was in the next room and was moving to intercede toot sweet but my curiosity got the better of me. What would happen, I wondered.

You know you just turned all those kids gay, right?

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/8 "2005-11-07T21:27:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By a curious coincidence, I saw something very like that. Watching the kids for a friend who had purchased a box full of tapes at a garage sale, Disney stuff, so on and so forth. A gaggle of crumb snatchers, aged 5-7 rummaged through them, squabbling over what to watch first, and found one without a label, popped it in, and bingo! _In flagrante delicious_ I was in the next room and was moving to intercede toot sweet but my curiosity got the better of me. What would happen, I wondered.
> 
> Not much. “Ewwwww!” from one munchkin.
> 
> “Thats how babies are made!” from another.
> 
> “Really?” asked a third
> 
> “Yep, my Mom told me.”
> 
> “Hey, look! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!”
> 
> “Cool!”
> 
> End of corruption of little minds. Hard to corrupt people who aren’t interested.
> 
> Employing time honored methods of distraction (“Cookies in the kitchen!”), I withdrew the tape in question. So far as I can tell, long term destructive effects were at a minimum.

I can just see the marriage counselling sessions in 20 years -  
“He wants me to dress up in a bright green costume and karate chop him. I just can’t understand why?”

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/9 "2005-11-07T22:14:48Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> “He wants me to dress up in a bright green costume and karate chop him. I just can’t understand why?”

“Hmm, interesting. Does he say ‘Cowabunga’ a lot during your love making?”

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**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/10 "2005-11-07T22:23:56Z")

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> [@Long Time First Time](#):
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> … One poster stated that he’d no longer attend games due to this deviant influence. …

He’s going to have a lot of free time on his hands if he’s choosing not to spend his money where gay people might work, play or live.

Has he checked his local bible book store to make sure it’s homo-free.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/11 "2005-11-07T22:44:13Z")

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> [@JonScribe](#):
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> Has he checked his local bible book store to make sure it’s homo-free.

I know for a fact the one in the mall in one town was run by a homo. His parents owned the business and handed it off to him when they retired.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/12 "2005-11-08T01:50:40Z")

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If this guy is JUST NOW worried about the lesbian factor in the WNBA, well, maybe you can drive him insane by pointing out the preponderance of “out” players and (gasp!) executives in the league.

Seriously, he’s been going to games and just NOW noticed?

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/13 "2005-11-08T03:10:26Z")

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> [@Happy Scrappy Hero Pup](#):
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> If this guy is JUST NOW worried about the lesbian factor in the WNBA, well, maybe you can drive him insane by pointing out the preponderance of “out” players and (gasp!) executives in the league.
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> Seriously, he’s been going to games and just NOW noticed?

I’m guessing he wasn’t contributing a whole lot of gate to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/14 "2005-11-08T03:16:17Z")

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Lesbians in the WNBA? How disgusting. Next you’ll be telling me there are lesbians on the United States softball team.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/15 "2005-11-08T03:24:37Z")

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> [@Long Time First Time](#):
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> Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Kettle, I give you Mr. Pot.
> 
> I have no words, really, to describe how terribly hypocritical I find it that person one is picking and chosing one specific bible passage to discredit another person who has done the same. BUT I do know that this sanctimonious ass-wipe needs a good pitting.

My experience is that people quoting one Bible verse out of context around here, as you’re so joyously bitching about, are usually doing it to show how stupid it is to quote Bible verses out of context. That wouldn’t be hypocritical - it’d just be over your head.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/16 "2005-11-08T03:25:04Z")

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> [@Hung Mung](#):
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> Lesbians in the WNBA? How disgusting. Next you’ll be telling me there are lesbians on the United States softball team.

Well, at least we still have the U.S Women’s Soccer team!

What?

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**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/17 "2005-11-08T04:08:04Z")

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This idiot is not going to watch the WNBA because there are gays in it?

I take it he’s not going to watch any sports then. Because there are gays in all of them.

Even hockey.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/18 "2005-11-08T04:20:45Z")

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> [@lonesome loser](#):
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> I take it he’s not going to watch any sports then. Because there are gays in all of them.
> 
> Even hockey.

Ah, yes, the sport notorious for high sticking.

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/19 "2005-11-08T04:34:20Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Let? No. We **make** the little buggers watch XXX rated movies, lest we risk them not being well-rounded enough when they grow up.

Dad?

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gays-vs-bible-huh/329941/20 "2005-11-08T04:35:23Z")

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> [@Long Time First Time](#):
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> …Sheryls sin will lead to death…

Is there anything that _doesn’t_ lead to death? _Living_ leads to death.

:smack:

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