# Gee Frank, having a bad day? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410 "2006-01-17T21:08:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/1 "2006-01-17T21:08:49Z")
What the fuck was [this bullshit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7006545&postcount=88) all about? In a response to another poster, out of nowhere and unrelated to the subject at hand, you drop this turd into the middle of the linked thread: “With the exception of the always bitter, bilious, vile, and vicious weirddave,” Excuse me? Now, seeing as I have never to my recollection interacted with you on the boards at all, in fact I don’t even know what latrine they fished you out of in order to make you a moderator, I think I have the right to know where this is coming from. Are _Ad Hominem_ attacks now standard procedure for moderators? Are you too intellectually challenged to address yourself to the issues at hand? Are you perhaps so bitter at your own empty life composed of reheated pizza, stale beer, hand lotion and transvestite goat porn that you feel the need to randomly lash out at people with real lives? I’m genuinely curious to know, since I seem to have engendered an irrational hatred in you. Maybe you’re only one of the partisan hacks who infect this board, projecting the shortcomings of your own political philosophy onto someone who doesn’t fit in with the lockstep liberal loonies you run with, threatened because I actually think about issues instead of blindly jerking my knee. Who knows? I certainly don’t, because I have no fucking idea who you are, and where this animosity came from. Please, let me know exactly why you feel the need to strike out like this, and weather you think this is appropriate behavior from a moderator (and why it is, if you do). And please, please, in the future, cut this fourth grade recess crap, would you? If you have something you want to say to me, just come out and start a thread instead of shitting cowardly character assassinations into unrelated treads, OK? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/2 "2006-01-17T21:13:16Z")
Until recently, **Frank** was **This Year’s Model** , if that makes things any clearer. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/3 "2006-01-17T21:14:59Z")
You know frank, just by a different name. I guess you didn’t get the name change memo. Why are you so hot anyway? I thought you were kind of proud to be known as a hard ass… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/4 "2006-01-17T21:15:18Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > What the fuck was [this bullshit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7006545&postcount=88) all about? In a response to another poster, out of nowhere and unrelated to the subject at hand, you drop this turd into the middle of the linked thread: “With the exception of the always bitter, bilious, vile, and vicious weirddave,” > > Excuse me? > Now, seeing as I have never to my recollection interacted with you on the boards at all, in fact I don’t even know what latrine they fished you out of in order to make you a moderator, I think I have the right to know where this is coming from. Are _Ad Hominem_ attacks now standard procedure for moderators? Are you too intellectually challenged to address yourself to the issues at hand? Are you perhaps so bitter at your own empty life composed of reheated pizza, stale beer, hand lotion and transvestite goat porn that you feel the need to randomly lash out at people with real lives? I’m genuinely curious to know, since I seem to have engendered an irrational hatred in you. Maybe you’re only one of the partisan hacks who infect this board, projecting the shortcomings of your own political philosophy onto someone who doesn’t fit in with the lockstep liberal loonies you run with, threatened because I actually think about issues instead of blindly jerking my knee. Who knows? I certainly don’t, because I have no fucking idea who you are, and where this animosity came from. Please, let me know exactly why you feel the need to strike out like this, and weather you think this is appropriate behavior from a moderator (and why it is, if you do). And please, please, in the future, cut this fourth grade recess crap, would you? If you have something you want to say to me, just come out and start a thread instead of shitting cowardly character assassinations into unrelated treads, OK? Gosh, I can’t imagine how I developed my opinion of you. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/5 "2006-01-17T21:19:12Z")
_I sure as hell wouldn’ta quit smoking if I’da known Sister was gonna die_ ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/6 "2006-01-17T21:19:52Z")
[curious] Why not post this in the thread that spawned it? [/curious] ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/7 "2006-01-17T21:27:44Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Gosh, I can’t imagine how I developed my opinion of you. Wow. That’s an illuminating response. You insult me, and when I respond in kind, it’s proof that I’m the one who is bitter, bilious, vile, and vicious. A world where effect precedes cause. Fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/8 "2006-01-17T21:28:24Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Gosh, I can’t imagine how I developed my opinion of you. What did weirddave say _in that thread_ that warranted that response _as a moderator._? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/9 "2006-01-17T21:29:14Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > [curious] > Why not post this in the thread that spawned it? > [/curious] I saw Frank’s inappropriate behavior as a separate issue from the subject of that thread. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/10 "2006-01-17T21:33:42Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > I saw Frank’s inappropriate behavior as a separate issue from the subject of that thread. Fair enough. > [@hajario](#): > > What did weirddave say _in that thread_ that warranted that response _as a moderator._? Was there a mod hat that I missed? ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/11 "2006-01-17T21:41:55Z")
**Dave:** In all fairness to **Frank** (not that I think that the snide aside about you was appropriate, accurate, or called for), I don’t see his comments as coming from him as a Moderator; he was just another schlep in the fray. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/12 "2006-01-17T21:55:34Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Wow. That’s an illuminating response. You insult me, and when I respond in kind, it’s proof that I’m the one who is bitter, bilious, vile, and vicious. A world where effect precedes cause. Fascinating. I am perfectly willing to go dig out some of the hundreds of posts where you are that. It won’t be today. I find it interesting that you can’t take it. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/13 "2006-01-17T21:58:50Z")
Do we get extra posting priviledges if the mods like us? No? Then who give’s a rat’s ass? Tell **Frank** to suck it and go on with your obviously very full life. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/14 "2006-01-17T22:06:45Z")
**Weirddave** , you so _crazy!_ **Frank** , aka **This Year’s Model** , is a dick, and something of an idiot to boot. I believe before he was a mod he was just another random leftist, and I bet you guys had contact. (Though I don’t remember if he was one of the reasonable ones or one of the shrill idiots. I would guess the latter.) At any rate, it’s not as though not having any basis for his opinions of posters ever stopped him from sharing them. The genital reference above is not meant as a response to **Frank** ’s moderatorial failings, but rather his personal ones; under my understanding of the rule invoked in **Ellis Dee** ’s brief suspension, I’m in the clear here. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/15 "2006-01-17T22:09:26Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Until recently, **Frank** was **This Year’s Model** , if that makes things any clearer. To me, it does. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/16 "2006-01-17T22:10:12Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Was there a mod hat that I missed? After re-reading the post, I take it back. When I first read the post, it looked to me like a Moderator slap down. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/17 "2006-01-17T22:12:18Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > the always bitter, bilious, vile, and vicious weirddave Incidentally, **Weirddave** is no stranger to strong words, but “always” is a strong claim; he’s certainly fun and pleasant much of the time. And I think “bitter” in general is a bit of a stretch. “Bilious”, yes - even bellicose - but usually in an amusing way. “Vile” is certainly undeserved; it’s silly to imagine that one can judge a person so thoroughly as to call them “vile” on the basis of behavior on a message board. “Vicious” - perhaps, but in my experience he seems that way only when provoked. Let’s address the real issue here. It’s clear, **Frank** , that your zeal for alliteration overwhelmed your better judgment and led you to condemn **Weirddave** in terms that are not only a bit exaggerated but also factually poor descriptors. I expect better from you in the future. **Weirddave** is good people. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/18 "2006-01-17T22:23:19Z")
I didn’t think we were allowed to insult moderators anymore, and they were not allowed to insult us. Or did I just imagine that whole fiasco? ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/19 "2006-01-17T22:50:55Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > I didn’t think we were allowed to insult moderators anymore, and they were not allowed to insult us. Or did I just imagine that whole fiasco? No. They’re allowed to insult us. One-way respect reigns on the smartest messageboard on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/20 "2006-01-17T22:52:50Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > I didn’t think we were allowed to insult moderators anymore, and they were not allowed to insult us. Or did I just imagine that whole fiasco? Only when they’re acting in Offcial Mod Capacity. If the mod hat’s off, apparently the gloves are, too. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410.md?page=2)