# Gee Frank, having a bad day?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 17, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410 "2006-01-17T21:08:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/61 "2006-01-18T12:54:48Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> **Frank’s** a tool and won’t last long as a mod. Everyone knows it.

As long as you think everyone is a reflection of you, I guess you could say that… in reality, I think you’re just talking shit to pile on.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/62 "2006-01-18T13:03:10Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> As long as you think everyone is a reflection of you, I guess you could say that…

This is one of those sort of smug, meaningless things people say when they don’t have anything relevant to add, right?

**Frank** ly, he _is_ a prick, and he’s shown no signs of being good at his job. Whether that means he “won’t last long” is not for me to say.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/63 "2006-01-18T13:20:33Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> **Frank** ly, he _is_ a prick, and he’s shown no signs of being good at his job. Whether that means he “won’t last long” is not for me to say.

And this is one of those smug, meaningless things people say when they’re trying to sound like they’re not really ‘saying’ anything.

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/64 "2006-01-18T13:55:48Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> **Frank** ly, he _is_ a prick, and he’s shown no signs of being good at his job. Whether that means he “won’t last long” is not for me to say.

Dood. I totally get that. Frankly…cause his name is Frank. Hi-lar-i-ous.

If I may, how does one be bad at that job? Close one too many threads? Wear white jackboots after Labor Day? I’m hoping it really isn’t because he _gasp_ insulted another poster in the appropriate forum while acting in a non-official capacity, because that sort of nonsense would be nutty.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/65 "2006-01-18T14:03:00Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> Advice about being less stident is usually pretty sound. But there are _some_ who might accuse this ordinary poster of "junior moding.  
> One of the biggest problems with this advice to **Pjen** from a person labelled “Frank, Moderator” is that it is contradictory and ironic. **Pjen** will certainly receive mixed messages from this post because a “Moderator” suggests that he or she shouldn’t bash others while in the same sentence said “Moderator” calls another poster bitter, bilious, vile and vicious… At the very least he should have followed his own advice and made his point without the bashing – unless the bashing was the point, of course.  
> Maybe **Frank** should not confuse what he does as a member with what he does as a staffer! That would help to keep **us** from confusing the two.
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> I have no beef with Frank and I often disagree with **weirddave**. But none of are not mindreaders. If I had have been in **weirddave’s** shoes, and there was no indication that **Frank** had taken off his moderator’s hat, I would have been “confused” too.

But he didn’t suggest that “she shouldn’t bash others”.

What he did say was that she shouldn’t bash others **if the objective was to persuade them**. That’s completely different and has nothing of the Moderator about it at all.

The comment on **weirddave** was just standard Pit stuff. I thought the rule was clear by now: when they’re acting as Moderators they need to mind their manners, when they’re not then they’re allowed the same freedom in the Pit as the rest of us.

Should they indicate plainly when they’re speaking _ex cathedra_? Sure they should, and most of them do.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/66 "2006-01-18T14:09:27Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Dood. I totally get that. Frankly…cause his name is Frank. Hi-lar-i-ous.
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> If I may, how does one be bad at that job? Close one too many threads? Wear white jackboots after Labor Day? I’m hoping it really isn’t because he _gasp_ insulted another poster in the appropriate forum while acting in a non-official capacity, because that sort of nonsense would be nutty.

It’s the random thread closings and movings that have been pissing me off. There’ve been plenty of pit threads about them.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/67 "2006-01-18T14:11:57Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> This is one of those sort of smug, meaningless things people say when they don’t have anything relevant to add, right?
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> **Frank** ly, he _is_ a prick, and he’s shown no signs of being good at his job. Whether that means he “won’t last long” is not for me to say.

Very good. You would know smug and meaningless since it’s your stock in trade. Fine, I don’t really care if people think **Frank** is a prick… just don’t say everybody… because that would include me.

I have no problem with **Weirddave** either, so don’t think that I’m defending **Frank** because of some loathing hatred of Dave. I just don’t like assholes saying things about someone and saying, “Well, everyone thinks this”… because it’s usually untrue.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/68 "2006-01-18T14:22:41Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> Very good. You would know smug and meaningless since it’s your stock in trade. Fine, I don’t really care if people think **Frank** is a prick… just don’t say everybody… because that would include me.
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> I have no problem with **Weirddave** either, so don’t think that I’m defending **Frank** because of some loathing hatred of Dave. I just don’t like assholes saying things about someone and saying, “Well, everyone thinks this”… because it’s usually untrue.

Hey, _I_ didn’t say it. Don’t go bitching at me for what **Aeschines** said.

Sorry, though, you’re grown-up version of “It takes one to know one” didn’t impress me when you used it on **Aeschines**. It’s not impressing me now, either.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/69 "2006-01-18T14:44:49Z")

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Dude… I wasn’t bitching about how you said everyone. I was bitching at you for telling me I was posting smug and meaningless drivel. I am sorry, but childish ranting and hiding behind that fucking “everybody” shit really grates on my nerves.

If someone (not speaking of you) wants to bitch at someone for something they did, thought, or said… fine. Just have the guts to stand there alone without trying to make it appear that you’re one of the group.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/70 "2006-01-18T15:04:39Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> Dude… I wasn’t bitching about how you said everyone. I was bitching at you for telling me I was posting smug and meaningless drivel. I am sorry, but childish ranting and hiding behind that fucking “everybody” shit really grates on my nerves.
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> If someone (not speaking of you) wants to bitch at someone for something they did, thought, or said… fine. Just have the guts to stand there alone without trying to make it appear that you’re one of the group.

Everybody hates him. At least, all the cool people do. Don’t you hate him? Everyone will think you’re cool if you hate him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/71 "2006-01-18T15:07:19Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Everybody hates him. At least, all the cool people do. Don’t you hate him? Everyone will think you’re cool if you hate him. 🙂

I’m too cool to be in a group that agrees on _anything_. 😉

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/72 "2006-01-18T15:08:08Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> It’s the random thread closings and movings that have been pissing me off. There’ve been plenty of pit threads about them.

Can you give me a hand with this? I did a quickie search for “Frank” in the BBQ pit and I couldn’t find anything.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/73 "2006-01-18T15:18:52Z")

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For what it’s worth, **Frank** , I’ve never noticed any unreasonable behavior from you; you seem to be doing fine modwise from my perspective. Not that I’m following you around with binoculars or anything.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/74 "2006-01-18T15:38:55Z")

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[singing] Frankie and Daniel sitting in a tree…

Daniel with binocs \> 🆒

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/75 "2006-01-18T15:41:19Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> [singing] Frankie and Daniel sitting in a tree…
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> Daniel with binocs \> 🆒

SHHH! We’re not allowed to sing that around here - people have meltdowns and leave the board and make administrators cry…

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/76 "2006-01-18T16:11:08Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> SHHH! We’re not allowed to sing that around here - people have meltdowns and leave the board and make administrators cry…

The baby Jesus, however, cackles with glee…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/77 "2006-01-18T16:15:17Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The baby Jesus, however, cackles with glee…

Actually, I think that’s a hairball.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/78 "2006-01-18T16:29:34Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Can you give me a hand with this? I did a quickie search for “Frank” in the BBQ pit and I couldn’t find anything.

The only Pitting of **Frank** for modding that I could find was [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353809). For what it’s worth, I thought **Frank** ’s comment was uncalled for, but I don’t have any complaints about his modding.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/79 "2006-01-18T17:07:34Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> > [@Hamlet](#):
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> > The baby Jesus, however, cackles with glee…
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> Actually, I think that’s a hairball.

So [this](http://bearfoots.theperfectsolution.com/cats/one.htm) is the _real_ baby Jesus?

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gee-frank-having-a-bad-day/340410/80 "2006-01-18T18:22:37Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Can you give me a hand with this? I did a quickie search for “Frank” in the BBQ pit and I couldn’t find anything.

First thing that springs to mind is his closing of the “netflix for porn” thread in IMHO. I think there were two (short-lived) pit threads on that.

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