# GeeDubya Speaks From the Ass

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 3, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901 "2004-09-03T03:15:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/21 "2004-09-03T04:39:43Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I only meant to describe her personality.

And what, pray tell, is wrong with Mrs. Bush’s personality, in your opinion?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/22 "2004-09-03T04:40:47Z")

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Damn Dopers. Why do perfectly good, mindless Pit rants always have to be hijacked with interesting tidbits of historical trivia?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/23 "2004-09-03T04:41:20Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Polk wasn’t either, but in all fairness he went into office with a plan, got it all done and had no reason to seek another term.
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> That, of course, from a history class. Given the minds this place has I’m sure there’s another perspective somewhere.
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> I suppose it doesn’t need mentioning that Nixon wasn’t re-nominated by his party after he resigned:D

The implication of the question is that we were looking for people who sought the renominaion and failed to get it. Polk never sought a second term. Nixon wasn’t eligible, and above and beyond that was no longer an incumbent in 1976.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/24 "2004-09-03T04:42:30Z")

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> [@milroyj](#):
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> And what, pray tell, is wrong with Mrs. Bush’s personality, in your opinion?

Have you read Al Franken’s book?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/25 "2004-09-03T04:46:43Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Have you read Al Franken’s book?

Yeah, right. Care to enlighten us?

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/26 "2004-09-03T04:49:25Z")

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> [@Mehitabel](#):
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> How about them protestors, huh? Balls of steel (metaphorical ones if some of them were female, I really couldn’t tell.) I _think_ it was a war thing, although I couldn’t hear what they were saying, just the delegates saying “Go! Go!”. Dubya handled it pretty well.

I thought he looked a bit shaken after they dragged the first woman out.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/27 "2004-09-03T04:49:47Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> …thus confirming beyond any shadow of a doubt that Kerry’s strategy consists of “Anybody but Bush” and “Let’s hope he blows his own foot off”…

Well, shit, **AD** , wouldn’t you if you were him?

All in all, pretty standard bilge, Szell pretty much sucked all the energy up. I thought there were some pretty strange applause points, crowd enthusiasm that seemed disproportionate to the import of the topic. Is the scourge of frivolous lawsuits really more desperately important than the epidemic of flag desecration?

And of course, no word…not _one_ word…on funding research and prevention of the dread menace of Cognitive Dissonance, but I’ve come to expect that…

And one oddly noticed…it seems by my rought estimate that if GeeDubya hadn’t been interrupted by heckling and a couple of incidents of extended applause, he would have finished his speech within seconds of the _Daily Show_s opening credits. I gotta wonder: would there have been a way to measure if, say, 27% of the people watching the show switched to watch John Stewart make fun of him?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/28 "2004-09-03T04:56:19Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> The implication of the question is that we were looking for people who sought the renominaion and failed to get it. Polk never sought a second term. Nixon wasn’t eligible, and above and beyond that was no longer an incumbent in 1976.

I recognized the first part, as emphasized by the fact in my post that you repeated;) I included Polk because let’s face it, when have we known a president to deliberately not seek a second term?

Nixon, for his part, was a joke. Whether I meant that wrt my inclusion of his name in my post or in a more overall sense is an exercise for the reader…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/29 "2004-09-03T04:59:57Z")

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> [@milroyj](#):
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> Yeah, right. Care to enlighten us?

Franken relates the tale of when they happened to trake the same commercial flight. He says, in a comical way, that she was rude and combative towards him. Seeing as how it’s essentially a comedy book, I don’t know how much of it he actually meant and how much was played for laughs.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/30 "2004-09-03T05:06:45Z")

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Interesting catch from Kevin Drum, over at [http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/)

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> …There was no mention in the speech of job creation. Something tells me this means that Friday morning’s job numbers aren’t going to be so hot…

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/31 "2004-09-03T05:07:11Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Franken relates the tale of when they happened to trake the same commercial flight. He says, in a comical way, that she was rude and combative towards him.

Um, isn’t Franken rude and combative towards just about everyone?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/32 "2004-09-03T05:10:29Z")

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> [@milroyj](#):
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> Um, isn’t Franken rude and combative towards just about everyone?

Yeah, he’s one of those aggressive, belligerent and intimidating Minnesota liberals you hear so much about. You don’t know the meaning of terror until you’ve been cornered by one of them.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/33 "2004-09-03T05:11:42Z")

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> [@milroyj](#):
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> Um, isn’t Franken rude and combative towards just about everyone?

No. He’s a comic.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/34 "2004-09-03T05:13:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Yeah, he’s one of those aggressive, belligerent and intimidating Minnesota liberals you hear so much about. You don’t know the meaning of terror until you’ve been cornered by one of them.

That’s nice, I don’t know anyone who is intimidated by Minnesota liberals. What are they gonna do, toss herring around?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/35 "2004-09-03T05:15:06Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> No. He’s a comic.

Doesn’t that require that he be actually, you know, funny?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/36 "2004-09-03T05:19:09Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I am so going to enjoy the morning of November 3rd.

You think these threads will stop once the election is over? That’s so adorable.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/37 "2004-09-03T05:20:02Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I am so going to enjoy the morning of November 3rd.

Me too, me too.

I made a comment in another thread that **Diogenes** is incapable of saying anything nice about Republicans. These convention screeds are a symptom of this peculiar malady.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/38 "2004-09-03T05:21:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Interesting catch from Kevin Drum, over at [http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/)

Actually, there was mention of job creation in the speech. Also, the speech mentions his dad; Drum claims it does not. [This source is about as accurate as the one you provide.](http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/39 "2004-09-03T05:22:37Z")

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> [@milroyj](#):
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> Doesn’t that require that he be actually, you know, funny?

It helps to have a sense of humor.  
😃

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubya-speaks-from-the-ass/262901/40 "2004-09-03T05:25:00Z")

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> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> Me too, me too.
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> I made a comment in another thread that **Diogenes** is incapable of saying anything nice about Republicans. These convention screeds are a symptom of this peculiar malady.

Not true. I have said nice things about Republicans on at least two or three occasions. I am only incapable of saying anything nice about Bush.

Oh…and Zig Zag is a Dem. isn’t he?

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