# GeeDubya's big speech. Be Wrong Now! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019 "2003-09-07T01:01:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/1 "2003-09-07T01:01:21Z")
GeeBubya’s set to give a speech tomorrow. A speech, not a press conference, no questions will be taken. Everybody’s pretty close mouthed, no big spills of rumors. Odd thing: Showtime is airing a move about him on 9/11 that, by all accounts, its postively knee-pad in its gushing approval. And this very movie is going to be interuppted by GeeDubya’s speech. Strange. But be that as it may, it offers an excellent opportunity for us two-bit pundits to be totally wrong: whats it gonna be about? A blockbuster? A sparrowfart? _I predict_: he will make a speech full of maudlin praise for our troops and “assure” them that he means to stay the course. He will also infer, but offer no proof, that some major headway has been achieved in the snipe hunt for WMD’s. But we’ll have to be patient, and trust him. I predict he will make only passing reference to the economy, as he is attempting to stanch one wound at a time. What your take? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/2 "2003-09-07T01:10:50Z")
Rummy made his special trip to Iraq in order to pick up the anthrax shells and dirty nukes they discovered in Saddam’s secret hideout. George will trot them out for all America to see -tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/3 "2003-09-07T01:38:21Z")
He’s making a speech, right at the start of football season, on a Sunday night? Definitely what **Squink** said. No way he schedules a speech for that kind of time slot without having something big & extremely positive for him politically to say. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/4 "2003-09-07T02:01:01Z")
He will try to claim a victory in the search for WMDs by extropolating a “program” out of an abandoned mini-van. He will wave the flag. He will praise the troops and try to get as much reflected glory on himself as humanly possible. At some point he will begin to glisten and talk about Jesus.\* The fact that he will not answer questions means that this is a purely political event. The intention is to manipulate public opinion not to inform the public. This line was stolen from Hunter S. Thompson in a recent interview with Aint-It-Cool-News. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/5 "2003-09-07T02:08:17Z")
I predict little or nothing about WMD. Why rehash that old stuff? More about the economy, I suspect, since various numbers are up. A bit about Iraq, a bit about the War on Terror. Maybe sumthin-sumthin about Israel & roadmaps. That, or he will appear in a toga, announce the creation of the American Empire. Olive oil stocks go through the roof. Brutus rejoices. SPQA? Either way, it probably be more ‘sparrowfart’ than blockbuster. Nothing ‘big’ happened in the past while, so I doubt the speech will be ‘big’. ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/6 "2003-09-07T02:10:16Z")
Yeah, but the timing is truly weird. Why schedule it for right after the opening action in football if it isn’t going to be something big? Odd, just odd. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/7 "2003-09-07T02:11:26Z")
He’ll explain why it’s taking so goddam long to plant WMD evidence. What’s the holdup, fer chrissakes? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/8 "2003-09-07T02:13:43Z")
He going to apologize for all the harm he’s done of course. Then all will be better. Not. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/9 "2003-09-07T02:19:36Z")
You know, sometimes I pay more attention to posters who share my paranoia as those who share my political leanings. This is, point of fact, a really _wierd_ time to schedule a speech, all things considered. I hadn’t thought about the football tie in, just barely knew about the movie. Note: When I said “no questions will be taken” that was an assumption on my part, no such stipulation has been made. However, speeches are generally billed as such, and questions are not usually a part of “speeches”. So, to be entirely clear, I was relying on reason and not actual statements. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/10 "2003-09-07T02:29:54Z")
Utter speculation, and a bit of going back on what I said earlier: We ‘found’ some WMD in Iraq? (For a offical ‘speech’, I would guess it has to be WMD, rather than just WMD programs.) The timing would be good. Bit early still, but there can be other ‘finds’ as time goes on. (Saddam in Feb., OBL in October, etc). Sheer speculation. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/11 "2003-09-07T02:35:08Z")
Now, **Reeder** this is my OP and I expect some niceties to be followed. Recent events, which God Forbid be reviewed again, have led several of our…less progressive…brethren to be…somewhat touchy. I intend to the conjectural. Make a guess, that sort of thing. I do not intend to open a thread for mere “Bush-bashing”. If you wish to point out the moral bankruptcy and the political nihilism of the Bushiviks, you will enjoy abundant opportunities. But in this instance, I’m trolling for Wild Ass Analysis. So…whaddaya think? Whats he got to say? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/12 "2003-09-07T02:39:00Z")
PS: I only disagree with friend **Brutus** because I suspect something as hefty as WMD’s! Found! would have leaked by now. Anybody checked the latest blogs? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/13 "2003-09-07T02:40:29Z")
Of course, being only a few days before Sept 11, he’ll have to associate Iraq with the 9/11 tragedy some more. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/14 "2003-09-07T02:50:02Z")
It was a guess. The **not** was for things being all better. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/15 "2003-09-07T02:51:27Z")
Same old stuff he’s been peddling all along. Hell, he believes it. The timing? An attempt to get people to actually watch and listen, since they’ll be in front of the tube anyway. But it’ll just tick people off instead. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/16 "2003-09-07T03:08:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > **PS: I only disagree with friend Brutus because I suspect something as hefty as WMD’s! Found! would have leaked by now.** [Britain and US back down on weapons of mass destruction claim](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3522145&thesection=news&thesubsection=world) > [@](#): > > The inspectors, headed by David Kay, a close associate of President George Bush, are likely to say the only evidence it has found is that the Iraqi government had retained a group of scientists who had the expertise to restart the weapons programme at any time. > > Foreshadowing the report, Mr Bolton said the issue was not weapons, or actual programmes, but “the capability that Iraq sought to have … WMD programmes”. Looks like all there is is a _desire_ to have a weapons program. You know, like a letter that says “Shit! I wish we had some nuclear anthrax or somthing!” ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/17 "2003-09-07T03:17:56Z")
Yeow! If that’s the announcement, does he have any idea the world of trouble he just bought for himself and the U.S.? Just plant some damned evidence, like **Revtim** said. Really, there is no overstating the amount of damage we’re talking about taking here on the international stage. No, just can’t be. Has to be something more, just has to be. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/18 "2003-09-07T03:21:37Z")
Yes to support the troops and stay the course (death to terrorists stuff), then talk about “America’s invitation to UN and other nations” I do believe he make reference to the economy and his steps to correct and plans to reduce unemployment. Has this forum done a thread about his “alcoholism”? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/19 "2003-09-07T03:26:37Z")
> [@](#): > > “the capability that Iraq sought to have … WMD programmes”. I´m appaled ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019/20 "2003-09-07T03:33:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\*[Britain and US back down on weapons of mass destruction claim](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3522145&thesection=news&thesubsection=world) Looks like all there is is a _desire_ to have a weapons program. You know, like a letter that says “Shit! I wish we had some nuclear anthrax or somthing!” \*\* Heh. So it drops from actual WMDs, to a WMD program, to the _desire of starting_ a WMD program. As a thought experiment, is it even possible for the bar drop any lower? Being able to spell WMD? Shit, I almost feel sorry for Blair. I guess the “45 minutes to deploy WMDs” really meant “45 minutes until we have a round table meeting and come up with mission statement for the stationary for when we start our WMD program someday.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geedubyas-big-speech-be-wrong-now/200019.md?page=2)