# Geek Fued (with a Joker) \[Game Complete\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679 "2008-02-29T22:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/61 "2008-03-02T07:56:47Z")
OS Windows 19 votes Score 38 Windows XP 10 votes Score 20 Linux 7 votes Score 14 Unix 5 votes Score 10 MS-DOS 3 votes Score 6 Microsoft 1 vote Score 0 CP/M 1 vote Score 0 Leopard OS X 1 vote Score 0 Vista 1 vote Score 0 Computer Company Commodore 19 votes Score 38 Amiga 5 votes Score 10 TRS/Tandy 5 votes Score 10 Wang 5 votes Score 10 DEC 2 votes Score 4 IBM 2 votes Score 4 Packard Bell 2 votes Score 4 Atari 1 vote Score 0 HP 1 vote Score 0 K-Pro 1 vote Score 0 NeXT 1 vote Score 0 Netscape 1 vote Score 0 Osborne 1 vote Score 0 TI 1 vote Score 0 (one blank vote) Profession Engineer 9 votes Score 18 Accountant 7 votes Score 14 Comic Book Shop Owner 3 votes Score 6 Mathematician 3 votes Score 6 Computer Sales 2 votes Score 4 Librarian 2 votes Score 4 Physicist 2 votes Score 4 Scientist 2 votes Score 4 Actuary 1 vote Score 0 Astronomer 1 vote Score 0 Circus Performer 1 vote Score 0 Copier Repair Tech 1 vote Score 0 Game Designer 1 vote Score 0 Game Store Sales Clerk 1 vote Score 0 Help Desk 1 vote Score 0 Laboratory Technician 1 vote Score 0 MIS 1 vote Score 0 Network Engineer 1 vote Score 0 Professional Blogger 1 vote Score 0 Ren Faire Performer 1 vote Score 0 SysAdmin 1 vote Score 0 System Analyst 1 vote Score 0 Technical Writer 1 vote Score 0 Video Store Clerk 1 vote Score 0 Web Designer 1 vote Score 0 WAN Administrator 1 vote Score 0 Famous Geek Bill Gates 38 votes Score 76 Steve Jobs 3 votes Score 6 Albert Einstein 2 votes Score 4 Steve Wozniak 2 votes Score 4 Nolan Bushnell 1 vote Score 0 Wil Wheaton 1 vote Score 0 Stephen Hawking 1 vote Score 0 Geekwear Glasses 24 votes Score 48 Pocket Protector 15 votes Score 30 T-shirt 3 votes Score 6 Cloak 1 vote Score 0 Jewelry Made From Electronic Components 1 vote/Score 0 Open Collar Shirt over T-shirt 1 vote Score 0 Personalized Underwear 1 vote Score 0 Vendorwear 1 vote Score 0 Visor Cap 1 vote Score 0 Geekyitem Note: Here is where I’ve used the greatest amount of personal liberty in interpreting the various answers given to me. For example, I will maintain that glasses, that anyone might wear are a different kettle of fish from what I’ve listed as BCD glasses. (For those of you who haven’t the benefit of military service, that’s what hornrims, the heavy duty plastic glasses, and glasses with tape around the middle all were classified as: Birth Control Device glasses.) Likewise, while I’m willing to lump graphing calculators with regular calculators, I have kept both RPN calculators and calculator watches as separate answers. Finally, while I’m aware that Blackberry is not equal to PDA, ISTM that it is only different as being a PDA with wireless internet access, something that’s harder to find a PDA today without than to find one with that feature. I have used this same liberty with a number of groups of answers, esp. hobbies, crimes and OS, to keep things separate or group them in arbitrary manners. I can usually think of arguments for and against any grouping I make, so I do ask that people bear with my idiosyncrasies. Pocket Protector votes 9 Score 18 Slide Rule votes 9 Score 18 Calculator votes 5 Score 10 PDA votes 4 Score 8 BCD Glasses votes 3 Score 6 Computer votes 3 Score 6 Polyhedron die votes 3 Score 6 Light Sabre votes 2 Score 4 RPN Calculator votes 2 Score 4 Calculator Watch votes 1 Score 0 Circuit Board/Breadboard votes 1 Score 0 Glasses votes 1 Score 0 iPhone votes 1 Score 0 Model Rocket votes 1 Score 0 Model of the ‘Enterprise’ votes 1 Score 0 Replica Star Trek Phaser votes 1 Score 0 A Toy (not used by, nor kept for, children) votes 1 Score 0 Vintage Synthesizer votes 1 Score 0 USB Christmas Tree votes 1 Score 0 Geekfilm Revenge of the Nerds votes 14 Score 28 Star Wars votes 13 Score 26 Real Genius votes 4 Score 8 Lord of the Rings votes 3 Score 6 War Games votes 3 Score 6 Weird Science votes 3 Score 6 Hackers votes 1 Score 0 Monty Python and the Holy Grail votes 1 Score 0 Monty Python and the Meaning of Life votes 1 Score 0 Office Space votes 1 Score 0 Tron votes 1 Score 0 Star Trek votes 1 Score 0 Sneakers votes 1 Score 0 Stargate votes 1 Score 0 Hobby RPG (inc. WoW, D&D, and LARP) votes 24 Score 48 Video Gaming votes 9 Score 18 Gaming and Wargaming votes 5 Score 10 Chess votes 1 Score 0 Fanfic votes 1 Score 0 Geocaching votes 1 Score 0 Hacking votes 1 Score 0 Ham Radio votes 1 Score 0 Model Building votes 1 Score 0 Posting on the Dope votes 1 Score 0 Stamp Collecting votes 1 Score 0 Train Spotting votes 1 Score 0 Webpage Design votes 1 Score 0 Crime Hacking\* votes 24 Score 48 Fraud \*\* votes 6 Score 12 Digital Piracy votes 5 Score 10 Embezzlement votes 5 Score 10 Identity Theft votes 4 Score 8 Corporate Espionage votes 1 Score 0 FTC Violations (HAM Radio) votes 1 Score 0 Indecent Exposure votes 1 Score 0 Possession of Light Sabre without Permit votes 1 Score 0 \*This includes Unlawful Computer Access, and DOS Attack \*\*This includes Wire Fraud, Computer Fraud and Phone Phreaking (Sorry, **Just Some Guy** – I really see Phone Phreaking as either fitting here, or with Hacking, not in some unique niche of its own.) Actor The least agreement happened in this category: 48 people chose to play, and we got 28 named actors and actresses. Plus one vote for whomever played the “Lone Gunman from X-Files.” William Shatner votes 9 Score 18 Wil Wheaton votes 7 Score 14 Woody Allen votes 3 Score 6 Seth Rogen votes 3 Score 6 Harrison Ford votes 2 Score 4 Mark Hamill votes 2 Score 4 Rick Moranis votes 2 Score 4 Gillian Anderson votes 1 Score 0 Tom Baker votes 1 Score 0 Matthew Broderick votes 1 Score 0 Sandra Bullock votes 1 Score 0 Nicolas Cage votes 1 Score 0 Bruce Campbell votes 1 Score 0 Asia Carrera votes 1 Score 0 Jon Cryer votes 1 Score 0 Matt Damon votes 1 Score 0 Anthony Michael Hall votes 1 Score 0 Alison Hannigan votes 1 Score 0 Walter Koenig votes 1 Score 0 Lone Gunman from “X-Files” votes 1 Score 0 Ian McKellen votes 1 Score 0 Leonard Nimoy votes 1 Score 0 Paul Reubens votes 1 Score 0 Kevin Smith votes 1 Score 0 Patrick Stewart votes 1 Score 0 Jameel White votes 1 Score 0 Rainn Wilson votes 1 Score 0 I also find it interesting: If there was a winner for the geek movie category, Star Wars was a close second, but there were only four votes cast for cast members of those films. While Star Trek got only 1 vote for all its various incarnations, the two top actors in this category were both Star Trek stars. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/62 "2008-03-02T08:19:48Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] \*\*This includes Wire Fraud, Computer Fraud and Phone Phreaking (Sorry, **Just Some Guy** – I really see Phone Phreaking as either fitting here, or with Hacking, not in some unique niche of its own.) [/QUOTE] You are so getting midnight phone calls from Zambia for that. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/63 "2008-03-02T08:24:04Z")
[QUOTE=Just Some Guy] You are so getting midnight phone calls from Zambia for that. [/QUOTE] Just so long as I’m not paying for them, I won’t care. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/64 "2008-03-02T09:27:22Z")
Diogenes the Cynic 428 Omniscient 410 Beadalin 376 The Tof 376 Roland Orzabal 376 Wallflower 368 Happy Lendervedder 366 Wargamer 366 atomicbadgerrace 364 gonzomax 362 Green Bean 348 ShibbOleth 346 Queen Tonya 342 MadTheSwine 322 The Cocky Watchman 320 Really Not All That Bright 318 Asimovian 316 Sir Dirx 304 Justin\_Bailey 302 Purgatory Creek 300 want2know 300 Gangster Octopus 294 bouv 292 5 time champ 292 Galena 284 pravnik 282 Zebra 270 MsWhatsit 266 Cosmic Relief 264 Koldanar 260 gardentraveler 256 Mullinator 250 sinjin 248 Illuminatiprimus 248 twickster 236 peekercpa 232 robardin 228 bmoak 224 El\_Kabong 204 brujaja 194 tarragon918 192 SmartAleq 188 dbuzman 188 delphica 184 Zen Beam 150 meenie7 132 Bites When Provoked 124 Just Some Guy 38 Alphabetical order: 5 time champ 292 Asimovian 316 atomicbadgerrace 364 Beadalin 376 Bites When Provoked 124 bmoak 224 bouv 292 brujaja 194 Cosmic Relief 264 dbuzman 188 delphica 184 Diogenes the Cynic 428 El\_Kabong 204 Galena 284 Gangster Octopus 294 gardentraveler 256 gonzomax 362 Green Bean 348 Happy Lendervedder 366 Illuminatiprimus 248 Just Some Guy 38 Justin\_Bailey 302 Koldanar 260 MadTheSwine 322 meenie7 132 MsWhatsit 266 Mullinator 250 Omniscient 410 peekercpa 232 pravnik 282 Purgatory Creek 300 Queen Tonya 342 Really Not All That Bright 318 robardin 228 Roland Orzabal 376 ShibbOleth 346 sinjin 248 Sir Dirx 304 SmartAleq 188 tarragon918 192 The Cocky Watchman 320 The Tof 376 twickster 236 Wallflower 368 want2know 300 Wargamer 366 Zebra 270 Zen Beam 150 Congrats to **Diogenes the Cynic** , and thanks for all who played. Now it’s someone else’s turn to run one of these monsters. Four hours collating all the data. Oy. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/65 "2008-03-02T10:03:29Z")
Woot… tied for 3rd! Figures it took a Feud devoted to Geeks to get my best score, haha ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/66 "2008-03-02T12:52:50Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] Geekyitem Note: Here is where I’ve used the greatest amount of personal liberty in interpreting the various answers given to me. For example, I will maintain that glasses, that anyone might wear are a different kettle of fish from what I’ve listed as BCD glasses. (For those of you who haven’t the benefit of military service, that’s what hornrims, the heavy duty plastic glasses, and glasses with tape around the middle all were classified as: Birth Control Device glasses.) Likewise, while I’m willing to lump graphing calculators with regular calculators, I have kept both RPN calculators and calculator watches as separate answers. Finally, while I’m aware that Blackberry is not equal to PDA, ISTM that it is only different as being a PDA with wireless internet access, something that’s harder to find a PDA today without than to find one with that feature. I have used this same liberty with a number of groups of answers, esp. hobbies, crimes and OS, to keep things separate or group them in arbitrary manners. I can usually think of arguments for and against any grouping I make, so I do ask that people bear with my idiosyncrasies. [/QUOTE] I find it interesting that you took the time to group and parse these similar items, yet you didn’t see any need to join “Windows” and “Windows XP” into one answer. They are at least as similar as Graphing Calculators and Calculators and perhaps moreso. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/67 "2008-03-02T13:11:22Z")
I always seem to get the same score in these games, even though I consistently get quite a few top answers. Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/68 "2008-03-02T13:40:28Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] 1. Name a Computer OS. 2. Name a defunct computer company. 3. Name a profession associated with geeks. Other than computer programmer or technician. 4. Name a famous geek. 5. Name something a geek might wear. 6. Name an object that could be described as “geeky.” 7. Name a movie that is associated with geeks. 8. Name a hobby that appeals to geeks. 9. Name a crime that might be committed by a geek. 10. Name an actor (or actress) associated with geeks. [/QUOTE] 11. Windows Vista 12. Commodore International 13. Comic Bookshop Owner 14. Bill Gates. (Joker) 15. Glasses 16. Personal Stormtrooper armor. 17. Star Wars (series). If specific, Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back. 18. Comic book collection. 19. Hacking. 20. Jaleel White. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/69 "2008-03-02T14:15:32Z")
Damn, I had Windows but changed it to Linux, as geekier … oh well. Hey, wait, I was _hoping_ to score badly on this one! 😃 (Yay me! I did have two zero-point answers!) ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/70 "2008-03-02T16:11:47Z")
I am so pleased that the Feud I’ve done the best on was the geek one. I know my roots, people. ---
**Author:** ![Purgatory\_Creek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Purgatory\_Creek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purgatory_Creek)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/71 "2008-03-02T16:22:35Z")
I’m fairly pleased with my nice round number. I was playing with a handicap, after all. Most of these geek things had not been invented when I first became a geek, yet I have maintained my geekdom for decades. Thanks for the game, **OtakuLoki**. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/72 "2008-03-02T17:33:56Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] I find it interesting that you took the time to group and parse these similar items, yet you didn’t see any need to join “Windows” and “Windows XP” into one answer. They are at least as similar as Graphing Calculators and Calculators and perhaps moreso. [/QUOTE] I know it can be argued that way. But, if I did that, shouldn’t I have then grouped Vista with them, as well? And what about that lonely vote for Microsoft, which ended up being orphaned, when there were three other specific Microsoft OS mentioned? In the end it came down to, for me, could the grouping work both ways? i.e. if I grouped Windows XP in with Windows, in my mind it would be saying that it would work just as well to group Windows with Windows XP? And I just couldn’t get the logic of that second grouping to work for me. As for graphing calculators and regular calculators: Consider this, anyone can use a TI-83 as a regular calculator, there are no specific skill sets required to get it to parse out simple maths. Which is definately not true for an RPN calculator. So, the while the graphing calculator has some capabilities that are different from those of what I’d call a ‘regular’ calculator, I know too many college grads who use one as their regular calculator, because that’s what they got used to. Similar decisions ended up with every question’s answers, except those dealing with specific names of people. Just for an example: several people mentioned scientist as a geek job, others listed physicist, or theoretical physicist, and one person listed astronomer. All of those could, in my mind, be grouped one way: An astronomer is pretty much a specific kind of physicist, as is the theoretical physicist, and all of them are scientists. But I couldn’t accept classing scientists as physicists, even though most science is applied physics, nor could I make physicist parse out as astronomer, either. I’ve learned my lesson: If I can think of more than one possible (for me) answer to a question, it’s not a good Feud question. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/73 "2008-03-02T18:22:05Z")
Excellent job, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/74 "2008-03-02T20:12:04Z")
Yes, thanks. I did okay, considering I live under a rock. ---
**Author:** ![Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crocodiles_And_Boulevards)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/75 "2008-03-03T08:29:25Z")
1. Name a Computer OS. - Windows XP 2. Name a defunct computer company. - Commodore (Joker) 3. Name a profession associated with geeks. Other than computer programmer or technician. - Comic Book Store Shop Worker/Owner 4. Name a famous geek. - Stephen Hawking 5. Name something a geek might wear. - Star Wars paraphernalia 6. Name an object that could be described as “geeky.” - A toy lightsaber 7. Name a movie that is associated with geeks. - Star Wars 8. Name a hobby that appeals to geeks. - Reading comic books 9. Name a crime that might be committed by a geek. - Hacking 10. Name an actor (or actress) associated with geeks. - Vin Diesel ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/76 "2008-03-03T08:52:56Z")
I think I should have copyrighted the Joker for Family Feud games, if only I hadn’t purloined it myself. I wonder if anyone can guess where from 😉 ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/77 "2008-03-03T09:28:12Z")
Game’s over, people. Gukumatz and Crocodiles And Boulevards should each get -100 points for failing to note the time limit. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/78 "2008-03-03T21:25:08Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] I’ve learned my lesson: If I can think of more than one possible (for me) answer to a question, it’s not a good Feud question. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I’d say this is probably a important point. It all comes down to hierarchies. Windows, as a distinct item, doesn’t really exist. It is by definition the grouping of the series of Microsoft OSes bearing it’s name. ```auto | --> Windows 3.1 | --> Windows 98 ( or 98 SE) Windows ------> | --> Windows NT | --> Windows 2000 | --> Windows XP | --> Windows Vista ``` I see this as an identical situation to the Calculator question. ```auto | --> Pocket Calculator | --> Scientific Calculator Calculator -------> | --> Graphing Calculator | --> RPN Calculator | --> Calculator Watch ``` The Scientist Question gets a little more complicated, and might require a different rationale. ```auto | --> Theoretical Physicist | --> Physicist ------> | --> Nuclear Physicist | | --> Applied Physicist | Scientist -----> | | --> Organic Chemist | --> Chemist -------> | --> Chemical Engineer | | --> Biological Chemist | | --> Astronomer ``` I figure the game referee can make any rules or judgments he chooses, but I think some sort of consistency is expected. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/79 "2008-03-03T22:09:43Z")
Ooh, hierarchies! I wanna do one too! ```auto | --> board games -------\----> | --> Monopoly | \ | >--> | --> Axis and Allies | / | --> war games ---------<----> | --> Warhammer 40,000 | \ games --> | >--> | --> Nectaris/Military Madness | / | --> video games -------<----> | --> Super Mario Bros. | \ | >--> | --> World of Warcraft | / | --> roleplaying games -/----> | --> Dungeons and Dragons ``` As you can see, the game hierarchy is very complicated, with lots of cross pollination. This is only a small part, of course… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679/80 "2008-03-03T22:27:14Z")
You’re way off on Wargames, at least as I know the hobby. This would be things like the Avalon Hill and SPI hex and counter titles. Advanced Squad Leader is a good example of this kind of game. Warhammer is a minitures game and Military Madness is a video game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geek-fued-with-a-joker-game-complete/439679.md?page=5)