# Geeky DS9 question. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 2, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881 "2006-11-02T19:32:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/1 "2006-11-02T19:32:27Z")
What was the deal when the Klingons went ape shit and started fighting Starfleet? (or it’s Alies?) I thought Starfleet and Klingons where supposed to be alies? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/2 "2006-11-02T19:41:05Z")
…uhhh…uhhhh… When? ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/3 "2006-11-02T20:17:52Z")
_Way of the Warrior_, parts I and II, the season 3/4 cliffhanger. Basically, the Klingons were chomping at the bit to invade Cardassia, involving a lot of talk about how they had lost their old glorious conquering ways. The Federation said “Hell no. Put those guns down.” It’s been too long since I watched it, but as I recall Sisko used DS9 to forcefully block their invasion. Gowron went batshit and declared the Khitomer accords null and void. Explosions ensued, including some really great dogfighting between the Defiant and some Klingon birds of prey. Of course, once the dust settled the treaty was restored in short order and life went back to normal. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/4 "2006-11-02T21:17:26Z")
[QUOTE=Spatial Rift 47] Of course, once the dust settled the treaty was restored in short order and life went back to normal. [/QUOTE] Was this the one where Worf resigned dramatically? And then undramatically unresigned? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/5 "2006-11-02T21:32:09Z")
[QUOTE=Spatial Rift 47] Of course, once the dust settled the treaty was restored in short order and life went back to normal. [/QUOTE] It wasn’t short order – it basically took the entire season. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/6 "2006-11-02T22:03:32Z")
Cardassia basically overthrew military rule and established a civilian government. Klingons thought that that couldn’t have happened unless there was Changeling interference. Also, many Klingons thought that the empire was stagnating, and were itching for a fight anyway. So, they wanted to go in and invade Cardassia. As it turns out, One of their big head guys (General Martok, I think) was replaced by a Changeling, so that whole bit could have been to destabilize the Alpha Quadrant as a whole - it would fit right in with Dominion MO ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/7 "2006-11-02T22:06:03Z")
> [@SHAKES](#): > > Geeky DS9 question. Geeky, as opposed to? :dubious: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/8 "2006-11-03T02:01:02Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] It wasn’t short order – it basically took the entire season. [/QUOTE] I stand corrected. I think I’ll rewatch the two-parter this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/9 "2006-11-03T03:04:39Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] Cardassia basically overthrew military rule and established a civilian government. Klingons thought that that couldn’t have happened unless there was Changeling interference. Also, many Klingons thought that the empire was stagnating, and were itching for a fight anyway. So, they wanted to go in and invade Cardassia. As it turns out, One of their big head guys (General Martok, I think) was replaced by a Changeling, so that whole bit could have been to destabilize the Alpha Quadrant as a whole - it would fit right in with Dominion MO [/QUOTE] Bingo. Of course, we didn’t find out Martok was a Changeling until the next season. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/10 "2006-11-03T21:35:31Z")
Which is really weird, because Martok sliced his hand open to prove he wasn’t a Changeling. If he was switched at that point, that would imply that blood screenings are pretty much useless; yet we see Starfleet continuing to rely on them throught the series. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/11 "2006-11-03T21:39:48Z")
[QUOTE=Spatial Rift 47] Gowron went batshit [/QUOTE] …forgive me, I’m trying to remember a situation when Gowron _didn’t_ go batshit. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/12 "2006-11-03T22:05:02Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] Was this the one where Worf resigned dramatically? And then undramatically unresigned? 😉 [/QUOTE] nah that was a TNG 2parter. This was the time that Gowron re-disolved the house of Mogh. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/13 "2006-11-03T22:21:10Z")
[QUOTE=athelas] Which is really weird, because Martok sliced his hand open to prove he wasn’t a Changeling. If he was switched at that point, that would imply that blood screenings are pretty much useless; yet we see Starfleet continuing to rely on them throught the series. [/QUOTE] Which is what Sisko’s father pointed out in that two-parter where the Changeling was on Earth: they can just kill a small animal, absorb its blood and release it on command. They didn’t test if it was HUMAN blood, just if it was blood. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/14 "2006-11-04T00:03:23Z")
Is it really necessary to spoiler tag a show that has been over for years? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geeky-ds9-question/378881/15 "2006-11-04T00:06:26Z")
Rule of acquisiton 34- Spoiler tags are like the rain on Ferengenar-a free resource which should be utilized often.