# Geez, Battlestar Galactica is really good! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973 "2009-03-02T05:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/61 "2009-03-05T01:22:50Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Re Baltar: Yes, absolutely. He is unquestionably the closest thing this series has to an outright villain (at least, among the humans), Of the regulars, yes. But… Assuming we dismiss the Black Marketeer Guy as a single episode goof and Rapist Interrogator as a short-lived non-entity, Admiral Cain probably gets top human billing, period. Still a little complex, but far more black and white than Baltar - indeed she provides Baltar with one of his sharpest reliefs as a compassionate man, however selfish. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/62 "2009-03-05T01:49:35Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > It’s **Tigh** , no _E_. Same spelling in both the original and reimagined series. > > Just a friendly reminder. 🙂 Thanks, ascenray! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/63 "2009-03-05T04:15:03Z")
I just finished the midpoint of Season 4. Holy frakking Christ! ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/64 "2009-03-05T04:19:04Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > I just finished the midpoint of Season 4. Holy frakking Christ! My roommate and I just got through episode 7 of season 4. Our plan is to actually watch the final episode when it’s broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/65 "2009-03-05T13:31:32Z")
So, do we know if the final episode (3 hours, right?) is going to be broadcast all at once or what? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/66 "2009-03-05T16:49:29Z")
I believe the plan is to air the first hour as one episode, and the concluding two hours a week later as a single event. ---
**Author:** ![davekhps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@davekhps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davekhps)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/67 "2009-03-05T19:28:11Z")
> [@Omi\_no\_Kami](#): > > Alright, everything else aside, the rescue scene from the second part of Exodus was pretty damn cool. Indeed it was. Atmospheric jumps _rock_. BTW, another thing you will notice is that the characters have great memories. Especially as they get deep into Season 3 and into Season 4, the characters will refer back to events from the previous seasons. Actions and events have consequences. Even things you might not think are a big deal at the time become important later on. ---
**Author:** ![TJVM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b38774/32.png) [@TJVM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJVM)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/68 "2009-03-05T20:48:55Z")
> [@Omi\_no\_Kami](#): > > Alright, everything else aside, the rescue scene from the second part of Exodus was pretty damn cool. In my opinion, the first four episodes of season 3 are some of the best of the series. Unfortunately, IMHO, the quality drops off after that, until the last few episodes of the season. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/69 "2009-03-05T21:01:07Z")
I’m right in the middle of season three right now (catching up my girlfriend, who doesn’t like SF but who was surprised to really enjoy this series). We are about to do the “Eye of Jupiter” episode, where they find something old and interesting on the algae planet. Season three is definitely uneven, but the two episodes bridging the midpoint are pretty good, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/70 "2009-03-10T23:52:04Z")
Gah, what on earth happened to this show… season 3 started off on a peak, dipped a bit, went up a _smidgen_ around the Eye of Jupiter section… …and now I’m being forced to sit through two hours of shitty dialogue and vapid, self-indulged moral fappery in the form of this bad Grisham-esque courtroom drama that comes pre-packaged with a blase Scifi Mystery that could’ve come straight from an early Star Trek: TNG episode. :smack: I still have 20 minutes to go before the end of the third season finale, and it still might pull up… wait a minute, is Lee _still_ on that monologue? Damn it boy, we _get_ it… we got it like four episodes ago when you hooked up with the Devil’s Advocate guy and manifested some mind-bogglingly comprehensive daddy issues out of left field. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/71 "2009-03-11T00:13:13Z")
Yeah, that. Annoying Lawyer Guy basically exists to demonstrate what a Writer’s Pet Character looks like. And this was the point that they had absolutely no idea what to do with Lee anymore (basically, ever since they morphed Helo into their “upright do-gooder guy”). The only character look they left themselves with Lee was Daddy Issues, so… ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/72 "2009-03-11T00:19:45Z")
See, this is where I would’ve taken a page from Joss Whedon and had Lee die a sudden and unexpected death. Hell, if they can get away with doing it to Billy, they should damn well get to do it to Lee. (I’ve never liked Lee, if you couldn’t tell. He and the football commando are easily my least favorite characters in the entire show.) …speaking of which, what the hell happened to football guy? I’m at the end of season 3, but the last time I remember seeing him was when he was pissing people off on the Algae planet, where someone had apparently promised to pay him a dollar every time he said the word “guerrilla”. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/73 "2009-03-11T00:25:34Z")
Well fuck me, that was unexpected. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/74 "2009-03-11T00:30:10Z")
Get your question about Sam Anders (aka, “Blanders”) answered, then? ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/75 "2009-03-11T00:31:32Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Get your question about Sam Anders (aka, “Blanders”) answered, then? Yep. Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if they were planning that from the start? I so called two of those, but the other two seemed like the writers going “Fuck it, we have one season left, let’s just say…” ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/76 "2009-03-11T00:41:43Z")
There have been podcasts and interviews which state that one of the Final Five was basically planned since season 1, but that the other four were only selected when the writers got together to plan the final story arc. Which one was planned ahead of time I do not believe has been confirmed yet. If it is any consolation, here at the very end of season 4, lots of things are making more sense in hindsight – even though we all knew that the writers were basically making things up as they went along. They’ve been pretty good at following through on what might otherwise have been throwaway details. Probably. With this show, we’ll never know until the end. If then. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/77 "2009-03-11T02:45:34Z")
Huh, thanks for the clarification! In retrospect, I’m actually surprised at how disappointed I’ve been with the hidden Cylons as plot devices: with the exception of the big reveals in the season 1 and 3 finales, every time they reveal a cylon I end up thinking “They wasted one of the 8 on _this_?” I think it’s mainly an artifact of the show’s general high quality: pretty much every other twist is unexpected and very well-constructed, and the cylons tend to come across as rather weak in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/78 "2009-03-11T09:04:58Z")
I didn’t much care for the original miniseries (I liked the ideas in it but not the pacing) so I’m glad I stuck it out past that. Definitely got much much better and has done some amazing things. Don’t forget to watch the three webisode series and Razor movie: The Resistance : takes place between 2x20 and 3x1 Razor : backstory of the Pegasus - takes place before, but is best to watch after 2x12. The DVD came out right before 4x1 so you might want to watch it then instead. Razor flashbacks : an early mission of young Adama - ties in with Razor and is included on the DVD The Face of the Enemy : takes place between 4x11 and 4x12 > [@DrDeth](#): > > I really don’t like the show. I suppose it’d be OK if they hadn’t taken a cheesy but fun fondly remembered show of my past, then dug the body up and make it do unatural things. I mean- why Battlestar Galactica? Why not just make up your own show? Having watched the original when it was on, I felt like they didn’t end it properly, so I’m glad that there is a new series that will have a more definitive ending. That said, in most other respects it’s basically an entirely new concept with a similar premise and some superficial carry overs. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/79 "2009-03-11T11:40:24Z")
…seriously? _That’s_ the twelfth cyclon? What a letdown. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973/80 "2009-03-11T20:16:03Z")
> [@Omi\_no\_Kami](#): > > …seriously? _That’s_ the twelfth cyclon? What a letdown. :smack: I was really disappointed in that too, until the follow up 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/geez-battlestar-galactica-is-really-good/487973.md?page=5)