# Gen McChrystal goes ass to mouth with his foot. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135 "2010-06-22T15:55:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/1 "2010-06-22T15:55:06Z")
> **[Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/22/general.mcchrystal.obama.apology/index.html?hpt=T1)** > > The fate of the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan hinges on his meeting Wednesday with President Barack Obama, who was "angry" after reading the general's remarks about colleagues in a magazine profile to be published Friday. Jesus Christ. WTF was he thinking? Did he think he was “off the record” when he said that shit to a REPORTER FROM ROLLING FUCKING STONE??? How embarrassing for everyone involved. Interesting to see how the administration responds to this. Do they try to look macho and fire him? Do they courts martial him for insubordination? Do they ignore it? I’m sure if some Lt under Gen M’s command made these statements about him to RS he would be relieved, guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s wrong for feeling that way about the people he deuced on but you’d think after 30 yrs in the Army he’d be more self aware to avoid this kind of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/2 "2010-06-22T16:12:39Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > [Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/22/general.mcchrystal.obama.apology/index.html?hpt=T1) > > Jesus Christ. WTF was he thinking? Did he think he was “off the record” when he said that shit to a REPORTER FROM ROLLING FUCKING STONE??? Dude, he totally thought they’d only report on his sweet bass collection. He got away with it once when he went to the press with his “request” for more troops. Maybe he thought he’d get away with it again? That, or he figured it’s his ticket out of a war that’s not going to be won. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/3 "2010-06-22T16:16:01Z")
Yeah, this is going to be bad for everyone involved. I suspect the Administration will basically pretend nothing happened from this point on. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/4 "2010-06-22T16:20:35Z")
He got summoned to the White House. So i don’t think it will be ignored. There are lots of generals. He should be loudly canned. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/5 "2010-06-22T16:44:23Z")
It’s called ‘rank insubordination’, which also cost MacArthur his job. He deserves to be sacked for being disloyal and unprofessional, regardless of whether or not he was correct. Freedom of speech is not an option for high-ranking military personnel, and these sorts of comments are detrimental to good order and discipline. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/6 "2010-06-22T17:35:43Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s called ‘rank insubordination’, which also cost MacArthur his job. He deserves to be sacked for being disloyal and unprofessional, regardless of whether or not he was correct. Freedom of speech is not an option for high-ranking military personnel, and these sorts of comments are detrimental to good order and discipline. As a military officer myself I agree unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/7 "2010-06-22T17:41:09Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s called ‘rank insubordination’, which also cost MacArthur his job. He deserves to be sacked for being disloyal and unprofessional, regardless of whether or not he was correct. Freedom of speech is not an option for high-ranking military personnel, and these sorts of comments are detrimental to good order and discipline. Yep. One does not lightly make fun of the Commander In Chief, if one is a general. Dugout Doug, another brilliant but arrogant general, found that out the hard way. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/8 "2010-06-22T17:47:51Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He got summoned to the White House. So i don’t think it will be ignored. There are lots of generals. He should be loudly canned. Maybe he just wanted to get the President’s attention so they could talk about the war. Maybe, now that he’s summoned to Washington, he can talk about the war with the President. Or, maybe not. Maybe they’ll just talk about the bad press this kind of thing gives the White House. You know: the important stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/9 "2010-06-22T17:52:10Z")
Didn’t Mac invade China against orders? He did a bit more than disagree with Truman. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/10 "2010-06-22T17:55:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Maybe he just wanted to get the President’s attention so they could talk about the war. Maybe, now that he’s summoned to Washington, he can talk about the war with the President. Right, because the only way a four-star general can talk to the President about the war is to drop a hint in _Rolling Stone,_ now that they got rid of the White House Semaphore Corps. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/11 "2010-06-22T17:55:36Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Didn’t Mac invade China against orders? > He did a bit more than disagree with Truman. Yeah, but it was after messy public reading of one of his more defiant letters on the floor of the HoR, which was taken at the time to be a shot across the bow of the president, and that’s something you don’t do. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/12 "2010-06-22T17:55:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Right, because the only way a four-star general can talk to the President about the war is to drop a hint in _Rolling Stone,_ now that they got rid of the White House Semaphore Corps. Poor Little Bricker. Another day working so hard to make pretzels wince and say, “Holy shit, how does he DO that? That’s gotta hurt!” -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/13 "2010-06-22T17:59:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Maybe he just wanted to get the President’s attention so they could talk about the war. Maybe, now that he’s summoned to Washington, he can talk about the war with the President. > > Or, maybe not. Maybe they’ll just talk about the bad press this kind of thing gives the White House. You know: the important stuff. That damn Obama, always stirring up trouble. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/14 "2010-06-22T18:00:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Maybe he just wanted to get the President’s attention so they could talk about the war. Maybe, now that he’s summoned to Washington, he can talk about the war with the President. What a stupid thing to say. They already talk at least weekly via satellite hook up. This week’s meeting will be in person though. Military officers are forbidden from criticizing their superiors in public. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/15 "2010-06-22T18:05:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Maybe he just wanted to get the President’s attention so they could talk about the war. Maybe, now that he’s summoned to Washington, he can talk about the war with the President. > > Or, maybe not. Maybe they’ll just talk about the bad press this kind of thing gives the White House. You know: the important stuff. No, the important stuff is what it does the integrity of the chain of command. That stuff actually matters in the field. You may remember that several Generals were critical of GWB, but none of them said so until after they retired. This kind of breech is something that is simply not done in the military (publicizing it, that is. Private grumbling about leadership goes back to Og and Grog bitching about Chief Mog’s strategy to win back the waterhole from the frogface tribe). That’s not a political thing, it’s a hardcore. military thing. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/16 "2010-06-22T18:07:58Z")
Incidentally, I have a feeling this meeting is not going to exactly be a dialogue. I expect it will be a pretty one-sided conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Oscalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/919ad9/32.png) [@Oscalo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oscalo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/17 "2010-06-22T18:32:10Z")
Personally I’m more offended by the fact that McChrystal’s favorite beer is Bud Light Lime. Ewwwww. > **[Rolling Stone's McChrystal Profile Helps No One](https://www.gawker.com/5569881/rolling-stones-mcchrystal-profile-helps-no-one)** > > Rolling Stone has published its big Stanley McChrystal "insubordination" piece online now, and he just trashes Barack Obama throughout the whole thing! Well, not really. There's a bigger thing getting trashed here called "the War in Afghanistan." ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/18 "2010-06-22T18:53:17Z")
I’m pretty offended the McChrystal, who doesn’t seem to be denying that he said what the story claims he said, nevertheless fired one of his press aides over it. Perhaps his aides are supposed to carry around sock bundles to stuff in his mouth when he gets too “truthy”. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/19 "2010-06-22T18:55:32Z")
McCrystal is the guy in charge of covering up Pat Tillman’s fragging. He’s a loathsome SOB and may be punished, but he will never get what is coming to him. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/20 "2010-06-22T19:00:07Z")
> [@Oscalo](#): > > Personally I’m more offended by the fact that McChrystal’s favorite beer is Bud Light Lime. Ewwwww. > > [http://gawker.com/5569881/rolling-stones-mcchrystal-profile-helps-no-one](http://gawker.com/5569881/rolling-stones-mcchrystal-profile-helps-no-one) That _is_ truly reprehensible. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I’m pretty offended the McChrystal, who doesn’t seem to be denying that he said what the story claims he said, nevertheless fired one of his press aides over it. Perhaps his aides are supposed to carry around sock bundles to stuff in his mouth when he gets too “truthy”. Some of his aides were also quoted in the RS piece, so that might be why that guy was fired. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135.md?page=2)