# Gen McChrystal goes ass to mouth with his foot.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135 "2010-06-22T15:55:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/81 "2010-06-23T19:09:51Z")

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I’m sure he’ll be commentating on FOX very soon.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/82 "2010-06-23T20:21:13Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Obama’s statement about welcoming debate but not tolerating division was right on the mark. What a stupid way to end his Army career. The downside is that we’ll probably see him run for office.

Palin / McChrystal '12?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/83 "2010-06-23T21:16:52Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Palin / McChrystal '12?

I’m sure he would run on a platform of “I stood up for Murkins and was shit on”, conveniently leaving out the part about being an insubordinate asshole.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/84 "2010-06-23T21:21:19Z")

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> A true American Hero. A man who stood up for what he believed in. A latter day John Wayne, willing to sacrifice for the greater good and American values.

I’m assuming you’re being ironic but the problem is that a lot of people are going to look back and “remember” it this way. They’ll assume McChrystal resigned over some major principle. So let’s remember what it was McChrystal really did - he got caught making fun of his bosses behind their backs.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/85 "2010-06-23T21:26:57Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> You might almost call Obama “uppity”!

Nevertheless, he is[articulate and clean](http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/).

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**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/86 "2010-06-23T22:17:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’m assuming you’re being ironic but the problem is that a lot of people are going to look back and “remember” it this way. They’ll assume McChrystal resigned over some major principle. So let’s remember what it was McChrystal really did - he got caught making fun of his bosses behind their backs.

Sure.

I just couldn’t help but think of how people from central America love flying into Ronald Reagan Airport.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/87 "2010-06-23T22:27:30Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Well, maybe not.
> 
> Whoa. I wonder where THAT came from. You’re like the master of the mixed message here. You start by giving me a link to address my confusion, then you follow it up with a dose of hostility to evidently discourage me from opening it.This is about the mean things I’ve been saying about the Designated Hitter rule, isn’t it?
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> PROTIP: if you’ve got someone on ignore, don’t respond directly to them, even if someone you don’t have on ignore quotes one of their posts.
> 
> Oh, and since you’re not going to see this (nobody would be so churlish as to quote it just so he does, would they? Naaahhh.): :p:smack::dubious:🆒:p:smack::dubious:🆒
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> _ptthblblttthhhblbl_ 😃

Wouldn’t dream of it.

Though anyone who thinks that **kaylasdad** is either illiterate or an imbecile can’t have much in the way of opinions that matter.  
Didn’t McChrystal bite Bush on the ass, too? For his anti-politician stance toward both sides of the spectrum, I’d fire his ass… then hire him as an advisor.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/88 "2010-06-23T22:54:30Z")

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> [@PrettyVacant](#):
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> Sure.
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> I just couldn’t help but think of how people from central America love flying into Ronald Reagan Airport.

Well, to be fair, most of the people in Central America who were affected by Reagan’s policies have been dead for a decade and a half.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/89 "2010-06-23T23:26:05Z")

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> [@PrettyVacant](#):
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> Sure.
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> I just couldn’t help but think of how people from central America love flying into Ronald Reagan Airport.

Yeah, because those of us that live in “flyover country” are just a bunch of Reagan-worshipping, gun-toting, Palin-loving, Fox News watching, drooling rubes.

Nice.

ETA or did you mean people from Nicaragua, Honduras, etc???

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/90 "2010-06-23T23:28:34Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> ETA or did you mean people from Nicaragua, Honduras, etc???

Yeeeah, that. Defensive much?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/91 "2010-06-23T23:33:55Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Yeeeah, that. Defensive much?

Only with you, big boy.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/92 "2010-06-23T23:40:27Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Yeah, because those of us that live in “flyover country” are just a bunch of Reagan-worshipping, gun-toting, Palin-loving, Fox News watching, drooling rubes.

Gotta say, if y’all think Central America refers to flyover country, you’re not doing much to dispel the rubes thing.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/93 "2010-06-23T23:42:50Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Gotta say, if y’all think Central America refers to flyover country, you’re not doing much to dispel the rubes thing.

Maybe, except it wasn’t capitalized, it was “central America”, not “Central America”. I’m sure you’ll understand my confusion. I’m sure the poster meant “The Midwest”. Or maybe he’s Manuel Noriega.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/94 "2010-06-24T02:59:48Z")

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From the [BBC](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10398733.stm)

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> Republican senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, who had criticised Gen Stanley McChrystal’s comments in the Rolling Stone magazine, came out immediately to “applaud” Mr Obama’s decision’s to name Central Command (CentCom) chief Gen David Petraeus as Gen McChrystal’s replacement.

And they say the BBC never lies 😃

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/95 "2010-06-24T05:13:46Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Palin / McChrystal '12?

I’ve heard a couple people in various places say this or something like it. I don’t know how serious you are but, per Marc Ambinder in The Atlantic:

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> Even more about McChrystal: now it can be told. The story about him voting for Obama is not contrived. He is a political liberal. He is a social liberal. He banned Fox News from the television sets in his headquarters. Yes, really. This puts to rest another false rumor: that McChrystal deliberately precipitated his firing because he wants to run for President.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/96 "2010-06-24T05:56:10Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> [Gone, baby, gone](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/us/politics/24mcchrystal.html?hp). Good move, IMO.

Good, fuck him.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/97 "2010-06-24T11:51:46Z")

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Despondency in his HQ. “People are shocked. People are upset.”

Yup, them bitches about to be fired too.

Who called Gen. Jones a “clown”? Pack your bags, you’re done. Count your ass lucky it’s not the dishonorable discharge you deserve.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/98 "2010-06-24T12:38:58Z")

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> [@Oscalo](#):
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> Personally I’m more offended by the fact that McChrystal’s favorite beer is Bud Light Lime. Ewwwww.
> 
> [http://gawker.com/5569881/rolling-stones-mcchrystal-profile-helps-no-one](http://gawker.com/5569881/rolling-stones-mcchrystal-profile-helps-no-one)

Ewww indeed… isn’t that an offence under OSHA, or something? Oh, wait, having no tastebuds isn’t illegal, is it?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/99 "2010-06-24T17:15:12Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> You have heard of a “retired general,” haven’t you?

> [@TWDuke](#):
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> Yeah, I have. Thanks for asking.

You’re welcome. That’s pretty much synonymous with “former general.”

> [@hajario](#):
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> I thought they faded away.

Heh.

Unless I totally misunderstood my military orientation factoids some thirty years ago, retiring from the military places you for life in the inactive reserve. It’s not impossible for a retired military person to be called back into active duty. Hence, a retired general is not necessarily _completely the same as_ “former general.” Just pretty much.

Marines are a different story. It’s my understanding that even without retiring, an honorably discharged Marine considers himself (or herself) a Marine for life, and is so considered by other Marines.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gen-mcchrystal-goes-ass-to-mouth-with-his-foot/544135/100 "2010-06-24T17:48:31Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Unless I totally misunderstood my military orientation factoids some thirty years ago, retiring from the military places you for life in the inactive reserve. It’s not impossible for a retired military person to be called back into active duty. Hence, a retired general is not necessarily _completely the same as_ “former general.” Just pretty much.

I believe that they have to formally resign their commission which isn’t usually done.

> [@](#):
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> Marines are a different story. It’s my understanding that even without retiring, an honorably discharged Marine considers himself (or herself) a Marine for life, and is so considered by other Marines.

The terminology is former Marine as opposed to ex-Marine.

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