Well, again, it’s entirely possible that his punch was just enough to down her, such that she’d be up and around and in fine commit-crimes-against-people condition if she’d had the presence of mind to assault someone on grassy turf – but, oopsie, she made the mistake of starting a fight on pavement near a curb.
In which case, maybe she’ll commit her next crime more carefully next time?
I think I was about 10 by the time I could beat my mother in arm-wrestling, which is why I picked the age. Women are much lighter and weaker than men on average, and especially so in the upper body. I’m relatively big for a man, so maybe my view is distorted, but I can’t seriously see myself feeling at all threatened by an unarmed woman. In fact, I suspect that any woman who hit me would hurt herself much more than she hurt me (e.g., broken wrist).
I seriously doubt the average woman is that weak. Plus a properly executed punch involves leg and torso muscles as well. Your whole premise is faulty.
You think an average woman knows how to punch? No fucking way.
If I was the one getting punched by a drunk woman or a drunk man who I perceived wasn’t a threat, I’d leave the situation. I don’t think I’d tit punch or bitch slap or leg kick etc. But I’m large enough to take a hit. Not everyone is physically hard headed enough to take a punch I suppose.
Right. Being a large male you might have a different mindset because you are accustomed to being physically dominant and maybe by a large margin. I don’t think smaller males necessarily feel the same way. I’ve seen some videos of women whipping some man ass. And not in a dominatrix sort of way.
Thus the “you hit like a girl” stereotype … my step-father was a boxer in his youth and he showed my step-brother and I quite a few “tricks” and techniques … I doubt half the posters here even know what it means to “telegraph a roundhouse” … or just how far a 250 lbs man can shove a woman’s jaw bone into her brain case with it.
What does it mean?
Do you think that an average man knows how to punch these days?
I assume it means spotting when your opponent is preparing to hit you with a roundhouse punch and being ready for it.
I’m a little disturbed by the second half of his sentence. There’s a lot of testosterone flying around in this thread.
You are exactly correct. I’m a male, but just 5’ 5" and out-of-shape. I don’t think that I would fare well in any sort of physical confrontation with most anyone, unless they were exceptionally tiny and / or weak! There are plenty of women out there who could mess me up, I figure.
I’m 5’7" - 5’8", out of shape (desk job with minimal regular exercise), shattered my elbow a couple of years ago, and while I’m sure a woman could bloody my nose or scratch me up (and I have no plans to just stand around and let them do that to me), I suspect I’d end up on the winning end of physical confrontations with most women. Maybe it’s because I’ve had brothers to wrestle with.
I don’t think I’d throw a punch at an attacking woman, but I could maybe see myself shoving / tripping her to give myself an opportunity to escape the situation. I suppose there’s an outside chance that even in the act of trying to disengage from a fight, she could fall and crack her skull somewhat like in the video.
If a guy was throwing punches at me like the guy’s swing in the video, and I found an opening to, I’d shoot him, and keep shooting him until he went down or broke off his attack.
I’ve seen too many videos exactly like this (just one brutally graphic example). If I end up in a fistfight, I’m going to turn it into a gunfight as soon as I can.
Cite, please.
What is the strength of the “average 10 year old boy”?
What is the strength of the “average woman”? (Let’s say age 20 to 50 so we can avoid questions about the elderly).
I would have said 12, myself. That’s a personal experience cite too - it’s when my brother started beating me at arm wrestling (I was 23 at the time, and he came up to my shoulder)
This chart suggests we’re probably both at least slightly overestimating it - extrapolating data points it looks like boys are hitting the “female peak strength” bar (25-29 year old women) at about age 13.
I don’t think Evil Economist’s point is substantially weakened if you change every 10 to a 13 in his posts.
Retaliated is different than defending oneself. What is proportional force? She threw a punch and then he defended himself by throwing one back. Maybe his punch was at half his capability? Do you know it wasn’t?
How do I tell a 10-year-old from a 25-year-old? It is very likely that the ten-year-old is over a foot shorter than I am. And if a ten-year-old can look me in the eye and punch me in the face, it really sucks for him when I smack him back. I am not asking for his ID before I defend myself.
So, if you are 6’8 and someone 5’3" punches you, then you can probably just push them aside. These two people looked to be of similar heights. How do you know he hit her with all his force and capability. Maybe he pulled his punch? How do you know he didn’t?
I’ve asked, and it hasn’t been answered yet, but how do I know the person is a woman so that I know how to appropriately defend myself?
Jebus. You don’t know that he isn’t bruised. Frankly, if he was reading this thread, he would be stupid to turn himself in.
Great. You just punched him in the face, and a half second later you are on the ground in a coma. When are you planning to shoot this fellow? While he was running away?
Here’s a better scenario, you punch the fellow in the face, he has a gun and puts two in your chest and one in your head. Is that a proportionate response to your assault?
If you can’t answer that in the 1 second that this event took place in while at the same time you had someone’s fist in your face, then you really don’t have anything to criticize this guy for.
No one is saying she was right to punch him. What the point is that pretty much any hit from him could injure her.
A man should never hit a woman - first. If a woman wants to fight a man, then she should expect to- oh I don’t know- fight? You want gender equality, then accept the consequences of your actions without regard to your gender.
Please stop confusing “equality”; which is a laudable goal which right minded people would support with “sameness”; which is frankly just in this situation, inane.
So?
You want the consequences for each of their actions to be the same yet this is the real world where they are not. Some weird concept of fairness applied only to men when they are subject to violence. “Suck it up” “Be a man” “Just restrain her (and end up with a sexual assault record because you accidentally grabbed her boob while doing so)”
You also want someone who was just hit in the face to calculate all these variables at the speed of Watson before they can act.