# Gender, race, and other issues (split off from Doper Demographics thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 7, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091 "2022-09-07T00:09:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/21 "2022-09-06T13:59:14Z")
> [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/39): > > The same argument can be made for most people over 50 though. Definitely. In the past, I was involved on message boards for various hobbies and interests I’ve had, several of which were likely to be largely populated by middle-aged-and-above white guys, just based on those boards’ content (model trains, model rocketry, classic Hot Wheels toy cars, etc.). IME, many of the participants on those boards had absolutely atrocious spelling and grammar. Being on those boards made my teeth itch. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/22 "2022-09-06T14:00:25Z")
In what time period though? I remember that as being later on- maybe 2004-2010, not the very early 2000s. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/23 "2022-09-06T14:00:27Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > There were a lot of threads in which women explicitly said why they were leaving. I would guess that a lot of what white men saw as harmless fun, they saw as hostile and unpleasant. This. For instance, a woman would start a thread about finding a fitting bra, and you could bet there was a boob joke in the first or second reply. And that was just the rather harmless stuff, but I absolutely can see how such behavior makes women uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/24 "2022-09-06T14:06:20Z")
Yeah, I know that kind of behavior was a common complaint and there were lots of threads urging mods to do better. I’m not in a position to comment on what women and POC experience here, I’m a white guy in his 50s, but I would love for this place to be more open to differing opinions, it would make it more diverse and vibrant. What I see is a place that is more stagnant than it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/25 "2022-09-06T14:15:48Z")
I’m female, and I like fart humor. Always have. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/26 "2022-09-06T14:25:20Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Women don’t seem to be into the fart humor I believe. Some of us get a giggle out of such things. Not all members of a given demographic group think identically. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/27 "2022-09-06T14:40:48Z")
I agree. I’m quite proud of my burps. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/28 "2022-09-06T14:49:08Z")
Times have changed and so has the Board but just a little bit too slow. The current crop of newish Mods have done a fantastic job of dragging us away from the most egregious bigotry that used to be tolerated, particularly with respect to misogyny but also all matter of bigotry including some appalling anti-Semitism. Stuff used to be tolerated because it didn’t technically break a rule or it was “just a joke”. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/29 "2022-09-06T15:45:39Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > Some of us get a giggle out of such things. Not all members of a given demographic group think identically. Conversely, I don’t like fart humor, and I’m an old white guy. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/30 "2022-09-06T16:47:09Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Modding has improved greatly, I can’t stress that enough but let’s not pat ourselves in the back too hard. Like you said, too little too late. Allowing twenty years of “scientific” racism and “show me your tits” posts pretty much guaranteed a mostly white male board. And these weren’t things that just slipped in occasionally, they were specifically allowed. There is no way to claw back to those numbers with the decline in message board participation. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/58): > > Same! Well, not sure if 53 counts as old. Oh no, you are old! 🙂 > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/70): > > Conversely, I don’t like fart humor, and I’m an old white guy. Agree. Pretty much any body elimination or pimple popping thread get a hard pass from me. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/31 "2022-09-06T17:04:35Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Like you said, too little too late. Yeah, but I don’t want to lay the blame on the people who inherited the mess and are trying to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/32 "2022-09-06T17:15:38Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > ETA I think it’s more accurate to say that we started here as younger white men and over the past twenty years we hounded out all the women and people of color and now we’re old white men. You know, I keep seeing that posted, but never anything to back it up. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/61): > > There were a lot of threads in which women explicitly said why they were leaving. Cite? Especially the “lot”. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/54): > > I do get the impression that the board of some years ago was probably not a site I would have joined in the first place. It wasn’t that bad- _mostly._ The predecessor of FQ, etc were all fairly decent. But yeah, we had threads like “Who was hotter, MaryAnn or Ginger?”, and a woman complaining about their breasts or whatever, would get “pics or it didn’t happen” stupid joke or two. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/55): > > It was a place where rape jokes were the height of wit. Hardly. But they were allowed. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/64): > > For instance, a woman would start a thread about finding a fitting bra, and you could bet there was a boob joke in the first or second reply Maybe not that early, but yes. Posters thought that was harmless fun, but not so much. it wasn’t done out of meanness. Message boards appeal to an older demographic. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/33 "2022-09-06T17:25:16Z")
I’ve been here since 2002. There are times when the board overall is so relentlessly aggressive toward women, POCs, and LGBTQI+ people that I stop posting or reading for a year or so. No one seems to notice my absence, but I’m not here. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/34 "2022-09-06T17:41:00Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You know, I keep seeing that posted, but never anything to back it up. It’s almost as if you’re part of the problem and intentionally don’t want to see it. > [@Fighting misogyny - but "cunt" and "bitch" are still okay words](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-misogyny-but-cunt-and-bitch-are-still-okay-words/853769): > > If you call a female public figure a “harpy”,[that can get you banned.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=896190) If you accuse feminists of hypocrisy, in a way that brings your own sincerity into question, [your thread gets closed and you get a warning](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22301280&postcount=57). If you start a thread about comparing the “hotness” of different tv characters, [your thread gets closed](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=895882). That’s all in the name of fighting misogyny on these boards. Know what? I’m good with that. We’ve lost too many good female-type posters due to misogyny, and the Boards are the le… > [@Misogyny, victim-blaming, and the board culture (yet again)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-victim-blaming-and-the-board-culture-yet-again/843504): > > I think the board has made positive progress over the last few years with regards to being a welcoming place for women and survivors of rape and sexual assault. Misogynistic comments are generally moderated when outside of the Pit, especially when they’re brought up out of the blue in a thread having nothing to do with women’s rights or allegations of sexual assault and rape. I thank the mods for their progress on this, and I thank many, many Dopers for speaking up about this to try and make t… > [@In which Steophan hijacks an ATMB thread about misogyny by accusing Blasey Ford of false accusation](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610): > > You are one slimy little worm, aren’t you Steophan? If you’re convinced that Christine Blasey Ford lied, you’ve got the whole board in which to raise that issue. But [the latest ATMB thread about misogyny on the Dope](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=885419) was not the place for that. It was your attempt to turn the thread into being all about your repulsive hobby-horse. If anything, you’re likely the one making a false accusation. So kindly go fuck yourself. > [@Misogyny on board](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617): > > In a trainwreck of a thread that’s already spawned a partner pit thread, we get this post: I just reported it, but I’d like to have a discussion about it and its kin in that thread. First, granted: several people clearly violated the ban on insulting other people in that thread. Their warnings were fairly given, I think. But folks like Ibanez are saying some profoundly misogynistic bullshit as well. They’re going beyond expressing calmly-held bigoted viewpoints; they’re saying things that, b… > [@My humble suggestion at fixing the misogyny stuff.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017): > > Real simple. Since this is an issue affecting mostly women (I know it pisses off the decent guys too). I’d like to suggest that we get together a panel of women only, wherein they can put their heads together and come up with some guidelines WRT all things sexism. The problem I’m seeing is the Mods are basically: “Well, what do you want us to do?”. If we had some guidelines that the Mods could point to when moderating an offensive poster, that would give them something better to work with than … > [@Why is Misogyny gaining ground on the board?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-misogyny-gaining-ground-on-the-board/691216): > > There are at least two threads in IMHO specifically designed to splash hate on just one gender and not only is no one objecting to it, they seem to be very popular. Yes in one I’m ashamed to say that I dissed Joan River’s supposedly mean persona and I regret that now. But this isn’t about politics or personality… it seems like a full hate fest of women and I don’t get it. Are they designed to draw in angry responses? Also, why are they so popular that they are always in the top 20 threads? … > [@Subtle Misogyny at SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/subtle-misogyny-at-sdmb/96927): > > Since when is the feminine form of every single obscene noun bitch? Can we please be a little more creative and a little less reflexively sexist? If you can call a man who is the object of your ire an asshole or a jerk or a fuckwad, why can’t you offer the same consideration to a female irritant? I get really tired of seeing words like “bitch” and “skank” and “whore” in every single Pit thread referring to a woman. By using such words you subtly include the person’s gender in your insult; migh… > [@Misogyny and Moderation, again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-and-moderation-again/838462): > > Per instructions, I am taking this to ATMB, because I think it illustrates the issue here. OP starts a thread where he says that when he sees a hot woman with “ass cheeks hanging out”, all he can think is that he wants to “hit that”. Rather than give a note that says something like “Hey, dude, we don’t talk about women like that here”, the burden is put on us to unofficially “educate” him that there’s something wrong with talking about women as if they were objects. Spoiler, it didn’t work, … > [@what's the "anti-misogyny policy"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085): > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21376853&postcount=7](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21376853&postcount=7) said: What are the “boundaries of the anti-misogyny policy”? I was aware that there was some discussion around making the SDMB more inviting to the fairer sex, but I wasn’t aware that a new policy had been settled on. I’m not particularly interested in trying to “test” them, but I do strive to follow the rules, and a critical part of doing so is staying abreast of the contours of new rules. ETA: sorry mods, title was su… > [@The ongoing problem with misogyny on the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ongoing-problem-with-misogyny-on-the-sdmb/825395): > > Is there any way to put a halt to the continual hijacking of the subject of female genital mutilation, the most recent example being the current thread on Female Genital Mutilation in The BBQ Pit? I’m not usually one for restricting access to all voices, but when there is a deliberate and concerted effort to turn any and/or all threads on this subject into a thread on the problems a small percentage of males have with circumcision then, frankly, I really wouldn’t mind being banned along with tho… > [@Misogyny on the SDMB, Sept. 2018 edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899): > > This subject has come up many times before on the SDMB, hence the subject title. This is obviously an issue for many people here. While previous discussions have had a tendency to go around and around with no resolution, some productive things have come out of those discussions, and hopefully something productive can come out of this one as well. From my point of view, I have seen changes. There have been several actions taken by moderators with respect to misogynistic posts in GQ. I have no i… > [@Poll for ladies only: What percentage of men on this board are misogynists?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-ladies-only-what-percentage-of-men-on-this-board-are-misogynists/815482): > > Simple question. Title says it all. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/35 "2022-09-06T18:00:36Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > It’s almost as if you’re part of the problem and intentionally don’t want to see it. So, Post one is by @Northern_Piper who is still with us, and is a solid board contributor. All you are doing is linking to threads complaining about misogyny, which was a issue in the past, no one doubts that. You are not providing any cites where female SDMBers say they are leaving due to misogyny, and to support your baseless claim, you would have to come up with about a dozen or more. @Susan here does say she stopped posting for a while. But I do not remember any large amounts of female SDMBers posting that they _quit_ due to misogyny. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/36 "2022-09-06T18:12:32Z")
Well, when people state they’re leaving, they often get jocular abusive comments about flouncing or “don’t let the door hit you, etc.” If I knew I were leaving forever, I’d just leave. The many times I’ve stopped participating for up to a year or so I generally haven’t said anything, and no one posts “Where’d susan go?” so I don’t think the board would know generally when someone had quietly disappeared or why. Where’s Eve? Where’s Fierra? Where’s Una? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/37 "2022-09-06T18:23:56Z")
The very first time some jackass hijacked a thread about the harassment and/or rape of women with multiple claims that men have it so much worse the banhammer should have come down so fast and hard the dimmest bulb among us would have gotten the point. Instead, threads were started in ATMB trying to point out the elephant in the room…and _those_ threads were often hijacked by the same cro-mags that caused the problem in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/38 "2022-09-06T18:27:50Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Yeah, but I don’t want to lay the blame on the people who inherited the mess and are trying to do the right thing. I don’t really blame any of the mods. The rule was set above their paygrade. I suppose you could argue that they had better access to the admin, but I don’t think that would have mattered. > [@Doper Demographics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/78): > > The very first time some jackass hijacked a thread about the harassment and/or rape of women with multiple claims that men have it so much worse the banhammer should have come down so fast and hard the dimmest bulb among us would have gotten the point. That would have been great. The lamest argument was always “the poor guy’s life is ruined by the rape accusation.” Well, maybe not as lame as “she was asking for it the way she dressed/place she was/ how much she drank.” There is a thread from 2011? about a 11 year old that was gang raped by 27 men. Even in that thread there were she dressed older, why was she hanging out with older guys, why didn’t her parents teach her better. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/39 "2022-09-06T18:34:31Z")
You also don’t see the racism being discussed in the thread about Dungeons and Dragons. You seem to struggle to see beyond your limited personal experience and are in fact making my point for me: that the problem here is that it is dominated by old white men who are disinclined to see things from outside their perspective. You also seem to have missed post 6 from this very thread: “ Same age group but am one of the few women. A lot of us have left over the unpoliced misogyny (I left too, but trickled back), and although the policing has improved, the women have not returned, I don’t believe. The board skews heavily white, male, and old.” > [@D & D got woke and that's good because you should have all been playing that way (or not if you didn't prefer))](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-got-woke-and-thats-good-because-you-should-have-all-been-playing-that-way-or-not-if-you-didnt-prefer/933114/595): > > I haven’t looked much at the 1980s version of Spelljammer (D&D fantasy spacefaring) or at the new version, but that appears to be a member of the Hadozee species. They look very similar to the Yazirians from TSR’s old science fiction game, Star Frontiers (which I have played), and I think are supposed to be a fantasy version of that species. I know nothing about Hadozee culture. In Star Frontiers, the Yazirians were the smartest of the playable sentient alien races. Spelljammer should have left… ---
**Author:** ![YWTF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/d07c76/32.png) [@YWTF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWTF)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091/40 "2022-09-06T19:25:23Z")
The board has become an echo chamber. Not only is it overwhelmingly white male, but all diversity of thought is gone. There is a great deal of pressure for everyone to hold the same opinions. There are no internal rewards to posting here if you know one “wrong” opinion could land you in a crybully Pit thread. So non-conformists don’t want to play in this sandbox anymore. I submit that the proper question isn’t how can the board become more inclusive to women and POC. The better question is why is the board going out of its way to marginalize diverse viewpoints? The board’s demographics is a just a symptom of a deeper problem. I’m one of the few black women who used to post here on a regular basis. Even through all the years of rape jokes and “black people are the problem race” threads. Even after being chastised by mods for daring to apply the word racist to actual racists. Despite this constant rain of microaggressions, posting here remained my fun little past time. I valued the intellectual debates this board used to foster and the lively discussions in the other fora. I came here to learn, share, broaden my awareness of the human condition, and examine my own beliefs. I don’t post much here anymore and neither does my sister @monstro because the climate here is too hostile to engage with unless you limit yourself to discussing only the most pablum of topics imaginable. Pablum just doesn’t do it for me. This is long post but I decided to reply to you because you seem quite earnest. But before I close, I will add this about the attrition of female posters. Women are increasingly finding popular social media platforms extremely hostile to their perspectives and concerns, so they are creating their own communities where they can speak more freely without being attacked and silenced by men who don’t want to hear what they have to say. Reddit has lost women the same way this one has. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gender-race-and-other-issues-split-off-from-doper-demographics-thread/971091.md?page=3)