# Gender, race, and other issues (split off from Doper Demographics thread)

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The term 'karen" is misogynist, bigoted and hurtful.

It’s neither misogynist nor bigoted. Because “bigotry” in direct response to bigots isn’t a thing, and it’s a response to hateful things the women have done, not merely because they’re women. Also I’m happy to concede you can get some male Karens, too.

Sure, it’s hurtful. Is your contention that hateful bullies should be shielded from hurt from the response to their hatred, themselves?

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I am surprised you are using it .

Maybe I don’t fit into whatever neat box you had for me, guy.

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