# Gene Hackman and wife found dead, and dog

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** celebrity-death\
**Created:** [February 27, 2025, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-hackman-and-wife-found-dead-and-dog/1014861 "2025-02-27T08:27:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-hackman-and-wife-found-dead-and-dog/1014861/121 "2025-02-28T23:37:45Z")

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I was wondering whether reliable testing for CO would be possible after the amount of time they were dead, and I see that it is.

This awful three-way tragedy is turning into an intriguing mystery that may take a while to resolve. Yes, I’m including the dog. It’s likely that neither Hackman nor his wife suffered, but the dog almost certainly did.

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Any chance that a bubble of CO2, or some other heavier-than-air gas, could’ve settled in their home?

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> My prediction is Hackman died in his sleep as nonagenarians are wont to do

But he was found in the mud room, not the bedroom.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
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Doesn’t everyone nap in the mud room?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Apparently I’m not wealthy enough to know what a mud room even is.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-hackman-and-wife-found-dead-and-dog/1014861/126 "2025-03-01T01:04:02Z")

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It’s a room or just a spot just inside the house where you take off your mud- or snow-covered shoes or boots. Basically it’s just meant to contain the mess. Not really a matter of being wealthy.

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It’s just the little alcove by the outside door where you take off your wet shoes and coat so you don’t track it through the house. Sometimes it’s enclosed with another door.

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Hmm. I would call that a vestibule. Guess I’ve never lived anywhere where the weather is severe enough to need one.

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Ideally there’s a seat or bench with perhaps storage for the outside clothes.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Hmm. I would call that a vestibule.

A mud room often has a bench so you can take off your shoes, storage for weather related clothing and places to hang your clothes. I think of a vestibule as being a lot less specialized

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-hackman-and-wife-found-dead-and-dog/1014861/131 "2025-03-01T01:46:50Z")

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Dairy farmers have something similar, which they also call the mud room (though “shit room” is the more informal usage)

_Gene_ Hackman  
_Jean_ Harlow

_Born_ in the 1930s  
_Died_ in the 1930s

My money is on kidney failure

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Apparently I’m not wealthy enough to know what a mud room even is.

I’ve seen them but never had one. Although I sure could use one now!

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-hackman-and-wife-found-dead-and-dog/1014861/133 "2025-03-01T01:51:30Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> My money is on kidney failure

They both died of kidney failure?

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Rebecca Pidgeon, on the other hand, never puts in more than an adequate performance. She doesn’t kill _Heist_ the way she did _The Spanish Prisoner_ but I never buy her as a _femme fatale_.

Her performance in Heist was also strained amd artificial.

_“Let it go”_

_“Walk away from it”_

LIke she was supposed to be some free spirit or something. A criminal but also a free spirit. I just didn’t buy it.

Hackmans smirk in the very last 3 seconds though was classic!

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Jean Harlow died of kidney failure (although the rumor mill blamed it on her bleaching her pubic hair, as it would)

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> [@Loach](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > Hmm. I would call that a vestibule.
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> A mud room often has a bench so you can take off your shoes, storage for weather related clothing and places to hang your clothes. I think of a vestibule as being a lot less specialized

The usage is probably regional. Around here a “mud room” is a small room between the side door of the house and the main interior, and/or may also have a door into the garage. As the name suggests, it’s a place to leave snowy boots and hang up coats before entering the house. It sometimes also doubles as a laundry room.

A vestibule is a more formal thing between the front main entrance and the interior. Most modern houses don’t have them, but the mud room is very common.

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“Mud room” was a very common term where I mostly grew up (New Hampshire). People had to have a place to remove and store boots, scarves, heavy coats, gloves, etc.

Our mud room was just inside the main door. There was a facing coat closet and a boot rack on the left, with hooks above the boot rack for hats and scarves.

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From watching British home renovation shows, they seem to call it a boot room.

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The blind man in Young Frankenstein:

> **[WebM Test II - Blind Priest Scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXGzO2aDDRU%2F)**
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> The monster (Peter Boyle) gets burned several times by the blind priest (Gene Hackman).Ripped to a .vob using mplayer.(mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile ...

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I remember when Weird Al’s parents died. He still performed that night, saying something about how his music made others happy and so performing might help him feel happy as well.

When my father died my band was booked for that weekend in a bar. The first night was one day after his death. It made my feel a bit better to be out working. Kept my mind off of things. So I get it.

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