# Gene Simmons speaks up against muslims **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204 "2004-05-15T00:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/1 "2004-05-15T00:55:09Z")
Why oh why? He does have the right to voice his opinion though, but it’s just ridiculous. [Outrage as KISS player mouths off on Muslims](http://smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289868279.html) Among the tidbits: “This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it’s willing to just live in the sands of God’s armpit you’ve got another thing coming,” says he. “The Israeli-born US musician went on to say Islam was a “vile culture” that treated women worse than dogs.” ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/2 "2004-05-15T00:59:00Z")
I always proof would emerge that KISS is the greatest band ever. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/3 "2004-05-15T01:00:05Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I always proof would emerge that KISS is the greatest band ever. :smack: always **knew** ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/4 "2004-05-15T01:02:13Z")
From your cite: > [@](#): > > The lizard-tongued rock god who is touring Australia with the world’s most enduring glam rock band **launched an attack on Muslim extremists** during an interview on Melbourne’s 3AW radio… Bolding mine. So what is the problem here? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/5 "2004-05-15T01:03:32Z")
> [@bbart4](#): > > He does have the right to voice his opinion though, but… …but the rest of that sentence is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/6 "2004-05-15T01:10:52Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > …but the rest of that sentence is irrelevant. I can voice my opinion too, can’t I? Brutus, No problem with that part you quoted but the article goes on: > [@](#): > > The Israeli-born US musician went on to say Islam was a “vile culture” that treated women worse than dogs. > > Muslim women had to walk behind their men and were not allowed to be educated or own houses, he said. > > “Your dog, however, can walk side by side, your dog is allowed to have its own dog house… you can send your dog to school to learn tricks, sit, beg, do all that stuff - none of the women have that advantage.” No mention that’s it’s just the extremist there. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Pastrami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Captain\_Pastrami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Pastrami)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/7 "2004-05-15T01:12:34Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > From your cite: > > Bolding mine. > > So what is the problem here? > [@](#): > > “Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people… I think it would be good for overseas speakers and commentators to be given some sort of advice in regards to our vilification laws here,” Yasser Soliman said. “They leave and go back to where they arrived from, but they leave behind a big mess that we have to deal with.” **That** is the problem here, or rather the problem in Australia ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/8 "2004-05-15T01:22:38Z")
> [@](#): > > but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people I like to think that innocent people are still capable of resisting the sophisticated brainwashing techniques of Gene Simmons. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/9 "2004-05-15T01:26:36Z")
He can say whatever he wants, and Gene - although I have an undying respect for his immense knowledge of world affairs - has chosen to make some comments that make him sound like a douche. Who’d have thought a guy famous for having a giant tongue would be able to stick his foot in his mouth? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/10 "2004-05-15T01:33:03Z")
Considering this is a guy who made his fame and fortune on his ability to piss off Christians, I say this rates a big “Meh.” ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/11 "2004-05-15T01:35:05Z")
Yeah, I’d say that considering that no one is paying Gene Simmons for his skill at diplomacy, his tremendous sensitivity, or his knowledge of world events, international affairs, or politics… …that this is of no importance whatsoever, no? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/12 "2004-05-15T01:39:03Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > I like to think that innocent people are still capable of resisting the sophisticated brainwashing techniques of Gene Simmons. Not according to Tipper Gore. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/13 "2004-05-15T01:46:11Z")
Gene REALLY botched his chance at winning the Nobel Peace Prize, didn’t he? And this was SO his year, too! ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/14 "2004-05-15T01:56:51Z")
[It’s not really surprising, considering he was born in Israel, and is Jewish.](http://www.kissfreaks.com/bios/gs.htm) I imagine he’s had those sentiments some time. ---
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/15 "2004-05-15T02:06:09Z")
> [@](#): > > “Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people… I think it would be good for overseas speakers and commentators to be given some sort of advice in regards to our vilification laws here,” Yasser Soliman said. “They leave and go back to where they arrived from, but they leave behind a big mess that we have to deal with.” Although his comment is ridiculous, I do believe that Gene is given a bit too much credit here of being capable to cause much of anything. It is somewhat amusing to see an over-the-hill-prepackaged-talent mouthing off about world affairs. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/16 "2004-05-15T02:59:12Z")
Does no one else see the extreme irony in _Gene Simmons_ complaining about the treatment of _women_? ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/17 "2004-05-15T03:22:59Z")
> [@TeaElle](#): > > Does no one else see the extreme irony in _Gene Simmons_ complaining about the treatment of _women_? Gad, I’m glad someone else stopped dead on that one. Gotta love pop culture, mainly because so much of the pontificating is so damned _silly_. These people live in (for?) the limelight so you’d think they’d be slightly savvier. Unless they’re drunk on their own fame, I guess. Celebrities are citizens so they’re entitled to opinions but I’ll never understand why journalism grants them any extra coverage outside their area of fame. On second thought, I do understand. The aim is make bucks, not inform, so the journalists and celebrities whore each other. News at 10! Brad Pitt on stem cell research, Cameron Diaz on economic recovery and Whatsername Garofolo on UN Treaties. A person couldn’t make up this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Otters\_We\_Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@Otters\_We\_Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otters_We_Love)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/18 "2004-05-15T03:23:21Z")
good point. Just read an interveiw with Nikki Sixx, who says his 3 year old daughter is much smarter than the strippers he’s known. These guys have such a low opinion of women. Of course, it different from Muslim’s. ---
**Author:** ![Otters\_We\_Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@Otters\_We\_Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otters_We_Love)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/19 "2004-05-15T03:24:48Z")
and Carrot Topp pontificates on partial birth abortion. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/20 "2004-05-15T04:58:47Z")
> [@TeaElle](#): > > Does no one else see the extreme irony in _Gene Simmons_ complaining about the treatment of _women_? I scrolled down _that_ far before someone pointed that out! Terry Gross. Fresh Air. [Gene Simmons interview](http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?displayValue=day&todayDate=12/30/2002) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204.md?page=2)