# Gene Simmons speaks up against muslims **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204 "2004-05-15T00:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/41 "2004-05-15T15:44:48Z")
> [@Powers106](#): > > So, everyone has the right to their opinion, and I’d say Gene Simmons has a few accurate comments in there, mabye not so eloquently put however. which ones? > [@](#): > > 99% of the terrorist are lslamic extremists and women clearly don’t have the same rights as men in that part of the world. 85% of statistics are made up on the spot. > [@](#): > > Interesting that they had to get a quote from the _Australian_ muslim of the year, who by the way grew up in [Australia](http://tinyurl.com/3y6f4) . Of course she doesn’t “walk behind her husband” - I think Gene was referring to Muslim women in the Middle East. Oh, the outrage! Sheesh. > > Powers does it matter what country that guy came from? Simmons wasn’t particularly specific in what country the Muslims he regards as “vile” come from. ---
**Author:** ![Otters\_We\_Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@Otters\_We\_Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otters_We_Love)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/42 "2004-05-15T16:04:15Z")
To correct a few posts here, Gene Simmons has always been anti-drug. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/43 "2004-05-15T16:17:20Z")
From this: [as-šarq al-'awsat is a London based Arab daily.](http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2473.html) In Arabic, North Africa and the Middle East+Egypt are respectively referred to as “al-maghrib” and “al-mashriq”, the West and East. mashriq ~ east-land (ma- “place of” + sharq “east”) maghrib ~ west-land (ma- + gharb “west”) Ironically, many Middle Eastern languages have now borrowed the term “Middle East” from Europe; thus Arabic calls it as sharq al-awsat (name of a major paper; sharq = east, al-awsat= the-middle) and Persian as khaavar-e miane. **Aldebaran** > [@](#): > > _Loaded with things I didn’t tell them to buy._ You didn’t tell them? Jeez. What happened after that? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/44 "2004-05-15T16:53:13Z")
> [@](#): > > If you (Gene Simmons) need to paint yourself like a failed clown to draw attention to your “art”, that says to me enough about the quality of the product. No, no, no! He’s painted to look like a big, scary _demon_, not a clown. He dresses in black vinyl jumpsuits complete with a bat-like cape and 10 inch platform shoes. He spits “blood” and waggles his reeeally long tongue in a demonic manner while beating his guitar strings and screaming nonsensical 4th grade level lyrics. Gosh, I can’t imagine why you haven’t heard of him. If KISS can’t transcend cultural and language barriers, I can’t imagine who could. And, for the record, you’d BETTER have your women under your thumb should Simmons be around, because he bragged in an interview (link above) that if he walked into a room, your wife WOULD want to go home with him. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Pastrami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Captain\_Pastrami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Pastrami)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/45 "2004-05-15T17:29:59Z")
Nice to see that **Brutus** is still doing his usual _fly by and drop an utterly pointless and inflammatory post into a thread and then vanish._ :rolleyes: :wally ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/46 "2004-05-15T17:35:30Z")
> [@gum](#): > > Ironically, many Middle Eastern languages have now borrowed > the term “Middle East” from Europe; thus Arabic calls it > as sharq al-awsat (name of a major paper; sharq = east, > al-awsat= the-middle) and Persian as khaavar-e miane. Thanks, **gum** , that’s cool to know. Nevertheless, I think if **Aldebaran** is going to get snitty about his location, it would work better if the location was in a language most of us can understand. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/47 "2004-05-15T18:13:36Z")
> [@Powers106](#): > > Interesting that they had to get a quote from the _Australian_ muslim of the year, who by the way grew up in [Australia](http://tinyurl.com/3y6f4) . Of course she doesn’t “walk behind her husband” - I think Gene was referring to Muslim women in the Middle East. Let’s see… > [@](#): > > This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it’s going to just live in the sands of God’s armpit you’ve got another thing coming … They want to come and live right where you live and they think that you’re evil. How silly to quote from an Australian woman who married into a Muslim family that emigrated from Egypt (Oh, I mean “the sands of God’s armpit”, pardon me) on the subject of Muslims who “want to live where you live.” She couldn’t _possibly_ have the insight into the motivations of Muslim immigrants to Australia that a megalomaniacal religious bigot from another continent does. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/48 "2004-05-15T18:21:23Z")
> [@Sylkyn](#): > > [It’s not really surprising, considering he was born in Israel, and is Jewish.](http://www.kissfreaks.com/bios/gs.htm) I imagine he’s had those sentiments some time. Because, of course, all Israeli Jews are racist. Either that or you’re as much as stupid fucking tool as Simmons. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/49 "2004-05-15T18:21:59Z")
Holy cow! An American celebrity **not** spouting anti-American propaganda? What is the world coming to? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/50 "2004-05-15T18:42:43Z")
> [@Captain Pastrami](#): > > Nice to see that **Brutus** is still doing his usual _fly by and drop an utterly pointless and inflammatory post into a thread and then vanish._ So, **Captain Registered-for-four-days** , who’s sockpuppet are you? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/51 "2004-05-15T19:34:58Z")
> [@](#): > > spoofe, if fucking Jar-Jar Binks said something that aligns with your pathetic worldview, you’d be reappraising his contribution to the Star Wars universe. And on what do you base this silly comment. little girl? ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/52 "2004-05-15T19:43:11Z")
Originally posted by \*\* This Year’s Model \*\* > [@](#): > > - Thanks, gum, that’s cool to know. Nevertheless, I think if Aldebaran is going to get snitty about his location, it would work better if the location was in a language most of us can understand\* Yes, it would. But ‘Belgium’ sounds a bit boring, huh. 😃 Good call, **Brutus** ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/53 "2004-05-15T23:18:06Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > And on what do you base this silly comment. little girl? pretty much anything you posted to the boards for the last few months, nyou pathetic little shit. all you’ve been doing is following the war hawks around the board and getting hyour kicks in against any democrats and left wingers in threads you feel safe in. want some examples, you pathetic shit? ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/54 "2004-05-15T23:35:52Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Because, of course, all Israeli Jews are racist. Either that or you’re as much as stupid fucking tool as Simmons. > > Haj Who said they all were? I merely said considering he’s Israeli (and Jewish), he has probably had those sentiments a while. It’s not like he wouldn’t at all have any background with this. Wouldn’t be surprising, nor would anything he’s ever said be so. I wasn’t meaning to insinuate or infer all of them felt this way, but I would bet quite a few do. He obviously does. I mean, haven’t the two groups been kinda fighting the last couple zillion years or so. It’s not surprising he’d have this kind of attitude. While I may very well be a stupid fucking tool (and probably am, in your eyes) Gene may well run his head inappropriately, but he’s not stupid. Just like me, probably talks before he thinks. And he doesn’t really give a shit. He’s a damn has-been rock star. Who _does_ give a shit what he says? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/55 "2004-05-15T23:51:07Z")
> [@Sylkyn](#): > > Who said they all were? I merely said considering he’s Israeli (and Jewish), he has probably had those sentiments a while. It’s not like he wouldn’t at all have any background with this. Wouldn’t be surprising, nor would anything he’s ever said be so. I wasn’t meaning to insinuate or infer all of them felt this way, but I would bet quite a few do. He obviously does. Yep. White people from Alabama are really likely to hate Black people too given the history. Excellent point. Have you been to Israel? Most people are just trying to live their lives. The same is true in the Palestinian Authority. > [@](#): > > He’s a damn has-been rock star. Who _does_ give a shit what he says? That is where we agree. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/56 "2004-05-16T00:01:36Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Yep. White people from Alabama are really likely to hate Black people too given the history. Excellent point. Have you been to Israel? Most people are just trying to live their lives. The same is true in the Palestinian Authority. > > Haj Nope, unfortunately I haven’t been to Israel, but I would guess that your take would be correct. As would your point about white folks from here…lots of them DO feel like that, which was my point. Not all, but a lot of them. Most of us just try to live our lives too. All I was trying to say was he probably had a knee-jerk reaction and spouted off. Not apologizing for him a bit. If he’d been Joe Blow off the street from Israel (or Alabama, or wherever) this discussion wouldn’t even be going on. > [@](#): > > That is where we agree. (whew) Glad to hear that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/57 "2004-05-16T00:36:29Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > **Rjung speaks up against christians** > > Why oh why? > > He does have the right to voice his opinion though, but it’s just ridiculous. > > [Outrage as Dope poster mouths off on Christians](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256240) > Among the tidbits: > > “Of course, it’ll be amusing to watch the morally-uptight bigoted Christian conservatives suddenly change their tune and start complimenting Gene Simmons…,” says he. **Lib** , I say this with all love and kindness: Shut the fuck up already. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/58 "2004-05-16T01:06:41Z")
> [@](#): > > pretty much anything you posted to the boards for the last few months, nyou pathetic little shit. Well, then surely it wouldn’t be terribly difficult to find an example. My only goal is personal growth, which is difficult to attain with the vaguest of invectives to use as a resource. > [@](#): > > all you’ve been doing is following the war hawks around the board and getting hyour kicks in against any democrats and left wingers in threads you feel safe in. Yeah? Such as calling them “pathetic little shits” and making vague (and innaccurate) accusations about their behavior? (“All I’ve been doing…?” I spend most of my time in Cafe Society…) > [@](#): > > want some examples, you pathetic shit? Examples? I’ll do you one better. How 'bout a wager? If even 1/10 of all my posts on this message board have been merely “following the war hawks” and “getting my kicks in against any democrat and left winger”, then by golly, come November I’ll cast my ballot for John Kerry (or anyone else you care to name). However, if less than 1/10 of my posts have been as you described, you have to vote for Bush. Sound like a bet? Or are you not quite so sure of your baseless attack? What’s it gonna be, Chuckles? ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/59 "2004-05-16T01:58:20Z")
Oh shit. Gene Simmons, bassist for Kiss (a band I’ve only listened to out of a sense of morbid fascination) speaks out against Muslims. Ever seen or read other interviews of this guy? This is what he _does_. He’s little more than a troll. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/60 "2004-05-16T02:32:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Lib** , I say this with all love and kindness: > > Shut the fuck up already. A-fucking-men. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204.md?page=4)