# Gene Simmons speaks up against muslims **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204 "2004-05-15T00:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/61 "2004-05-16T03:04:40Z")
> [@Denis](#): > > Oh shit. > > Gene Simmons, bassist for Kiss (a band I’ve only listened to out of a sense of morbid fascination) speaks out against Muslims. Ever seen or read other interviews of this guy? This is what he _does_. He’s little more than a troll. Accusations of trolling should be reported to mods! ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/62 "2004-05-16T03:11:27Z")
Ah, sorry, **Brutus**. Hey, **Lynn**! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/63 "2004-05-16T06:17:22Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Lib** , I say this with all love and kindness: > > Shut the fuck up already. If only I were capable, I would. But I am a morally-uptight bigoted Christian conservative, so you see that it is not my fault. Oh, please pity me. Pretend, perhaps, that I am a morally-uptight bigoted Liberal-Cause-Du-Jour or something. ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/64 "2004-05-16T06:25:02Z")
No, **Lib** you simply come across to me (and others, obviously) as a jackass. Not really a big thing, but could you cool it on the “anti-Christian bigotry” drive bys and rants? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/65 "2004-05-16T06:40:11Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Gad, I’m glad someone else stopped dead on that one. > > Gotta love pop culture, mainly because so much of the pontificating is so damned _silly_. These people live in (for?) the limelight so you’d think they’d be slightly savvier. Unless they’re drunk on their own fame, I guess. > Celebrities are citizens so they’re entitled to opinions but I’ll never understand why journalism grants them any extra coverage outside their area of fame. > On second thought, I do understand. The aim is make bucks, not inform, so the journalists and celebrities whore each other. > > News at 10! Brad Pitt on stem cell research, Cameron Diaz on economic recovery and Whatsername Garofolo on UN Treaties. > > A person couldn’t make up this shit. Well, ever since watching the great [hero](http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/spotlighthealth/2002-10-18-streep-healthy-kids_x.htm) save children from those deadly Alar treated apples, I’ve realized that there are a lot of stupid fucks around who need someone famous to tell them what to think. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/66 "2004-05-16T06:45:49Z")
> [@Denis](#): > > No, **Lib** you simply come across to me (and others, obviously) as a jackass. > > Not really a big thing, but could you cool it on the “anti-Christian bigotry” drive bys and rants? > > Thanks. Sure. I can see how it’s fair to accuse Christian conservatives of bigotry while insisting that no one speak up for them. And I can see how those who do are jackasses ranting with drive-bys. I wish I could be more like you. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/67 "2004-05-16T07:19:50Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > If only I were capable, I would. But I am a morally-uptight bigoted Christian conservative, so you see that it is not my fault. Oh, please pity me. Pretend, perhaps, that I am a morally-uptight bigoted Liberal-Cause-Du-Jour or something. Tell me, **Lib** , why do you assume that those adjectives are being used to describe Christianity as a whole, and not a specific subset of Christianity, as stand English usage would imply? ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/68 "2004-05-16T10:16:38Z")
2 reasons I won’t take you wager sparky. as you said, you spend most of your time in Cafe society, you only come out to GD to spout crap (like creating the impression that the worst thing american soldiers did was put hoods over the prisoners heads, in comparison to the murder of that woman on her wedding day) your 1/10 count would be very hard to prove. Because you might post 99 times to a star Wars thread in CS, doesn’t mean your 1 post in GD isn’t typical “Rah Rah America!” crap. the sencond reason I won’t take it, is that I cannot follow through on the terms of the wager, considering I’m not American. I’m just sick of you parroting Rush Limbaugh tactics in debates. Your drivebys are simply annoying distractions, and you’re no better than Millum, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/69 "2004-05-16T10:40:02Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > And on what do you base this silly comment. little girl? I can assure you he’s a big boy. Hurrah, Ignorance fought! ---
**Author:** ![Farmwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Farmwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmwoman)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/70 "2004-05-16T14:23:19Z")
> [@TeaElle](#): > > Does no one else see the extreme irony in _Gene Simmons_ complaining about the treatment of _women_? Spot on. And thanks to **Nursecarmen** for linking to the _Fresh Air_ interview which made me squirm with embarrassment over the fact that I once used my hard-earned babysitting money to purchase this guy’s album back in the 70’s. When it first aired, I nearly took up smoking just to ensure that Mr. Simmons would never consider bedding me. And in a perfect universe, Terry Gross would have immediately lighted an unfiltered Camel and said, “Speaking for women everywhere, let me just say _whew_” ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/71 "2004-05-16T15:34:45Z")
I wish you could be more like me too, **Liberal**. That way you’d lose some of that absolutist attitude you just displayed in your post. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/72 "2004-05-16T15:57:05Z")
> [@TwistofFate](#): > > I’m just sick of you parroting Rush Limbaugh tactics in debates. Your drivebys are simply annoying distractions, and you’re no better than Millum, IMO. Please, please, _please_ tell me that you only know Limbaugh from reading the Web. It’s bas enough his drivel gets broadcast on the Armed Forces Network, but if he’s on international radio. . . we’re doomed. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/73 "2004-05-16T16:48:06Z")
It’s ok, I learned about him from this site right here. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/74 "2004-05-16T21:34:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Lib** , I say this with all love and kindness: > > Shut the fuck up already. **Guin** , get a fuckin job will ya. Or maybe get laid. I’m sick and tired of your nipping at the heels of **Lib**. You are not love and kindness. You’re being a little bitch. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/75 "2004-05-16T21:35:59Z")
Shit. I did not mean to hit the submit button. It got away on me. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/76 "2004-05-16T22:46:14Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > Shit. I did not mean to hit the submit button. It got away on me. ??? then why type it out? Stand by your words or fall on your sword. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/77 "2004-05-16T22:55:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Hey, is this true? I was about to comment on the fact that some statement characterizing Islam based on particular branches of this religion can get quite a response from the general Islamic community, but I"ve heard nothing from them condemning the killers of Nick Berg. Yes, it’s true. At least a couple of Arab countries (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE are the ones I know of) as well as Hamas and Hezbollah have condemned the killing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/78 "2004-05-17T02:59:23Z")
> [@TwistofFate](#): > > ??? > > then why type it out? Stand by your words or fall on your sword. Look **Twist** , ever heard of innuendo ? Try reading my words in context. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/79 "2004-05-17T12:54:41Z")
> [@Tir Tinuviel](#): > > I can assure you he’s a big boy. > > Hurrah, Ignorance fought! Thank God. I’ve been reading this whole second page worrying that I’ve had **Twisty’s** gender wrong for a few years now. Glad to know I wasn’t wrong. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204/80 "2004-05-17T13:10:26Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > Look **Twist** , ever heard of innuendo ? Try reading my words in context. I did read your words, I still can’t make any sense of them. I wasn’t having a go at you, I just think whats the point in typing out a reply if you don’t mean to submit it? Just curious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gene-simmons-speaks-up-against-muslims/245204.md?page=3)