# General Petraeus on Russia-Ukraine

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion\
**Created:** [March 16, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146 "2022-03-16T00:39:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146/41 "2022-03-20T18:54:10Z")

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It would be an enormous gift to Putin for NATO to extend their involvement since there is a long tradition of anti-propaganda in Russia. It would justify further repressive measures. Far better to provide indirect support.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146/42 "2022-03-21T01:06:17Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> It would justify further repressive measures.

True. Any thing that goes badly for the people will become unvaryingly labeled as sabotage by agents and collaborators of NATO and the Decadent West (that in turn meaning, anyone who is not actively working to support Putin).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146/43 "2022-03-27T03:51:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> With direct NATO involvement, he’d be lucky to even keep Crimea.

I, for one, am opposed to him even keeping Crimea, no matter how lucky he gets. In fact, even before the invasion, I insisted that renouncing the so-called “annexation” was a condition of getting people to stop accusing him of planning to invade (further).

Best of all possible solutions: he’s offered a junior probationary (non-voting, non-important-meeting-attending) membership in NATO.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146/44 "2022-04-02T15:11:41Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> he does not want to enrich himself at the cost of his nation, he genuinely cares. He has put himself into a position where he cannot win – BUT, he can lose with something of a silver lining!

Um… What??? His entire life has been personal enrichment at the expense of his nation. He is the purest example of an oligarch.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-petraeus-on-russia-ukraine/961146/45 "2022-04-02T15:16:48Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> he does not want to enrich himself at the cost of his nation, he genuinely cares.

You might want to read this article, about his estimated net worth of $200,000,000,000 (yes, billion with a “b”)

> **[Putin claims he makes $140,000 and has an 800-square foot apartment. His...](https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/vladimir-putin-net-worth-2022/)**
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> Experts all over the world have been trying to pinpoint Vladimir Putin's exact net worth, but no matter what they do, his fortune continues to be an unsolved mystery.

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