# General Ugly Betty Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 27, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226 "2007-10-27T15:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/21 "2007-10-28T20:00:19Z")
[QUOTE=DrFidelius] Okay, I can’t get on the Cliff bandwagon (in the PFLAG Parade). Sure, he seems like a nice guy, but what if he has used that whole “it would be like a fairy tale” line to hook up with a series of guys who are out of his league? I don’t trust him around Marc, I think he’s moving too fast and Marc will be hurt… [/QUOTE] I agree. I think it’s great they’re showing a gay guy actually having a - you know - boyfriend and stuff. But I doubt the writers are going to let Marc off easy. He’s in for just as much drama and heartbreak as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/22 "2007-10-29T02:32:29Z")
I also like the producers showing (in CLiff) that gay guys aren’t all faaaabulous fashionistas. They’re guys. WHo happen to be gay. I also liked the fact that Justin’s family really wanted the old Justin back. They weren’t secretly hoping he was going to become some straight stud. THey love Justin for Justin, and want to see him being happy as himself. Besides, although no one’s really bring it up, Justin’s dad was really a kind of two-bit punk. Hildy and Justin deserved better. It was good he was beginning to change, but if I were Justin, I’d be mad about the previous 12 years his dad wasn’t realy there. StG ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/23 "2007-10-29T02:59:12Z")
[QUOTE=StGermain] I also like the producers showing (in CLiff) that gay guys aren’t all faaaabulous fashionistas. They’re guys. WHo happen to be gay. [/QUOTE] That’s the main thing I like about the Sarah Silverman show: her gay-couple neighbor-friends who are actually (GASP!) unattractive, couldn’t care less about decorating, and geeky! I could take or leave Henry, but I do hope they show him shirtless before he goes just to see if that last shot was superimposed or not. Rico is no good for anybody- way too self-involved and finger-pointing. Totally agree about Justin and his family. The Suarez Family is my new ideal for how a family should operate, and not just their tolerance for Justin: respect for parents, fun-loving, law abiding, hang together, etc.. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/24 "2007-10-29T03:07:49Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] I could take or leave Henry, but I do hope they show him shirtless before he goes just to see if that last shot was superimposed or not. [/QUOTE] I looked on TWoP and they said it was him. Check [this](http://www.superherofan.net/galleries/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=-359&pos=2) out. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/25 "2007-10-29T03:08:52Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] Upon thinking about it, everyone on the show is flawed except for Betty. [/QUOTE] You think? I think she tries way too hard to be pleasing. At least, to Daniel. Sure she could care less about what people think about the way she looks but there’s been a couple of times where she’s screwed over her friends and family for the sake of Mode or Daniel. At first it was charming but now it’s just off-putting. There’s no one in this show that I find is completely without flaw. ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/26 "2007-10-29T03:09:19Z")
I’ve been watching this show all along, but now I’m confused. Who’s Rico? Did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/27 "2007-10-29T03:21:29Z")
Rico is this snarky little sandwich cart dude who showed up in one episode (last week?) and ended up driving Betty across town to pick up a special wheelchair…after Betty got him fired for complaining to management about his sandwiches. He seems pretty independent and free-spirited, opposite of Walter and Henry. Betty was intrigued by him but she was still working out of her Henry mess. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/28 "2007-10-29T03:47:40Z")
[QUOTE=ZipperJJ] He seems pretty independent and free-spirited, opposite of Walter and Henry. Betty was intrigued by him but she was still working out of her Henry mess. [/QUOTE] There have been two characters I’ve recognized from the show _Six Feet Under_. The first was the sex therapist guy who got Daniel hooked on drugs - that was a one-off appearance, then Rico, whose sole purpose on the show may have been getting Betty into a writing class. We may never see him again. I wonder if it’s just coincidence they were both from _Six Feet Under_, and if we’ll see any other actors from that show. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/29 "2007-10-29T03:52:44Z")
My bad. Actually, his character’s name is Gio. I was too lazy to look it up when I posted earlier. He was Rico on Six Feet Under for four or five years. He’ll always be Rico to 6FU viewers, probably. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/30 "2007-10-29T04:09:47Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] He’ll always be Rico to 6FU viewers, probably. [/QUOTE] My bad too. We probably shouldn’t be calling characters by their name in other shows. I just called him Rico because other people were and I was too lazy to look up what his name was on Ugly Betty, and assumed it was Rico. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/31 "2007-10-29T04:35:22Z")
[QUOTE=StGermain] I also like the producers showing (in CLiff) that gay guys aren’t all faaaabulous fashionistas. They’re guys. WHo happen to be gay. [/QUOTE] I don’t believe Marc’s reaction. Schlubby guy upbraids him with a line like “he’ll look like me in 20 years; I just got there 20 years early.” Marc’s answer is most likely going to be “Call me in 20 years.” Not that hottie model is going to look like that in 20 years or 50 years. Total false note. And to confirm that Henry’s built, here’s how he looked back when he was [Jake](http://www.onestopcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/christopher_gorham01.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/32 "2007-10-29T05:01:51Z")
I’m positive I saw Gio in the previews for next week’s episode, so I don’t think he’s a one-off character ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/33 "2007-10-29T05:18:28Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] And to confirm that Henry’s built, here’s how he looked back when he was [Jake](http://www.onestopcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/christopher_gorham01.jpg). [/QUOTE] Link doesn’t work! I want to see hot Henry! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/34 "2007-11-02T01:39:06Z")
Wicked…on Ugly Betty…Gay Overload… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/35 "2007-11-02T01:40:09Z")
Okay, it’s official. I’m so much more in love with Gio. He was so yummy looking when he was teasing her about the tickets. She’s gotta throw over Henry for Gio, a man who’s hot and knows a good sammich. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/36 "2007-11-02T01:55:31Z")
I _knew_ Marc was going to get all assy about Cliff. I KNEW IT! Yes, Marc honey. You beg. Because you REALLY screwed up. And I actually felt sorry for Wili tonight. You ever notice that when you eavesdrop on conversations in the restroom you rarely hear anything nice about yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/37 "2007-11-02T02:17:12Z")
[QUOTE=Zoggie] He was so yummy looking when he was teasing her about the tickets. She’s gotta throw over Henry for Gio, a man who’s hot and knows a good sammich. [/QUOTE] And doesn’t have a pregnant girlfriend (that we know of). My favorite Henry moment was when he compared himself to a female orangutan in estrus fighting off all beta males and Hilda’s response- “That would work better if you compared yourself to one of the male orangutans”. ETA: I haven’t watched the episode yet (but I don’t mind spoilers)- do you get to see some of WICKED? Of course Rena Chenoweth (original Broadway cast Glinda) was on the show last season. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/38 "2007-11-02T02:51:23Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] And doesn’t have a pregnant girlfriend (that we know of). [/quote] He does have a snarky little sister! > [@](#): > > ETA: I haven’t watched the episode yet (but I don’t mind spoilers)- do you get to see some of WICKED? Of course Rena Chenoweth (original Broadway cast Glinda) was on the show last season. We get to see quite a bit of “Wicked.” We see parts of “Popular,” “I’m Not That Girl” and “Defying Gravity.” And yup, that was awesome seeing her as the dental hygienist with a penchant for happy endings last season. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/39 "2007-11-02T14:34:16Z")
Ah- most ass tightening moment ever on the show (the WICKED appearance), if only because I’ve actually had similar moments in nightmares. And no surprise on the Marc+Cliff front- I just hope they don’t wrap it up too neatly because Marc isn’t going to date anybody that not-chic at this point of his life. Also no sympathy for Willi- she’s a terrible mother and a golddigger and she already knew it and had admitted as much. History Geek meets Ugly Betty Geek- has anybody else noticed that [Betty Suarez](http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/7/_/1/-/-/america_ferrara.jpg) and [Anne Boleyn](http://www.jack-of-all-trades.ca/meandmine/ab1.jpg) wear the same necklace? I wonder if that’s intentional. And I was surprised at how small a role they gave to Marlo Thomas. Perhaps she’ll be back, for any number of older actresses could have done that role in their sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226/40 "2007-11-02T14:38:20Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] History Geek meets Ugly Betty Geek- has anybody else noticed that [Betty Suarez](http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/7/_/1/-/-/america_ferrara.jpg) and [Anne Boleyn](http://www.jack-of-all-trades.ca/meandmine/ab1.jpg) wear the same necklace? I wonder if that’s intentional. [/QUOTE] Aaaahhh… pity. I’m not the [first to notice](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2006-38%2CGGGL%3Aen&q=betty+suarez+anne+boleyn+necklace&btnG=Search) (though I swear I noticed it independently while watching the DVD of last season). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/general-ugly-betty-thread/424226.md?page=3)