# Generally accepted as true, despite proven false news.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 7, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492 "2019-12-07T00:19:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/41 "2019-12-09T19:48:29Z")

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The shooter on the grassy knoll.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/42 "2019-12-09T20:08:56Z")

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Those fellows waking in cold water in a hotel bathtub, with scars where their kidneys were removed.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/43 "2019-12-09T20:15:54Z")

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I can think of two things wrong with the title of _Naked Lunch_.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/44 "2019-12-09T20:35:10Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Don’t forget that Richard Gere showed up at an ER with a gerbil in his rectum, and Rod Stewart had a quart of sperm pumped out of his stomach.

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I first heard about Richard Gere after being exposed to the internet.

But what gets me is how shit like the Rod Stewart story spread around, pre-internet. Because I heard that while working the diesel can on an asphalt crew, when I was… 11? 12? So 1991-1992 (yes, I was young… it was summer, and my family was very, very poor, so my dad got me a job helping to bring a bit of extra money in, $20/day in cash, under the table). So all of these barely-literate road crewmen in rural South Dakota were standing around during a break talking about the Rod-Stewart-stomach-pumping story, which stuck with me, only to find out years later that it was bullshit.

Of course, nowadays these are the same idiots that would forward obvious right-wing fake bullshit via Facebook… so not much has changed, I guess.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/45 "2019-12-09T20:43:39Z")

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Hillary Clinton molests young children in the basement of some pizza joint in DC.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/46 "2019-12-09T21:01:50Z")

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Donald Trump is an astute businessman

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/47 "2019-12-09T21:28:39Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Donald Trump is an astute businessman

The reason that Trump is such an astute businessman is because he uses a full 200% of his brain, unlike the rest of us using only a paltry 10% of ours.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/48 "2019-12-09T21:34:31Z")

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Jimmy Carter’s “Crisis of Confidence” speech (commonly known as the Malaise speech now) backfired on him in public support.

In actual fact his approval ratings shot up in the immediate aftermath of the speech but reset itself back to where it started after some cabinet changes and of course the hostage crisis.

It was also Ted Kennedy, not Ronald Reagan, who first used the word malaise in referring to the Carter Administration.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/49 "2019-12-09T21:43:48Z")

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> The reason that Trump is such an astute businessman is because he uses a full 200% of his brain, unlike the rest of us using only a paltry 10% of ours.

That 200% still pales in comparison to an overachieving SWAT K-9 dog.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/50 "2019-12-10T00:29:42Z")

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I agree that Tempe Jeff is not a reliable judge of proof.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/51 "2019-12-10T14:19:05Z")

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Elton John’s relationship with David Furnish is a coverup for his pedophilia. Elton i the head of a pedophilia ring, and befriended Princess Diana to recruit her sons. When she found out what he was doing, she threatened to expose him, so he had her killed.

Hey, I saw it on the Internet, so it must be ture!

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/52 "2019-12-10T15:32:33Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Elton John’s relationship with David Furnish is a coverup for his pedophilia. Elton i the head of a pedophilia ring, and befriended Princess Diana to recruit her sons. When she found out what he was doing, she threatened to expose him, so he had her killed.
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> Hey, I saw it on the Internet, so it must be ture!

When I was a kid in the 70s it was “common knowledge” that Elton John and Olivia Newton-John were married. She added his last name to hers, see.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/53 "2019-12-10T16:27:04Z")

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> [@Mallard](#):
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> I like BOTH kinds of music…country AND western. 😃

I can tolerate both REAL kinds of music, rhythm AND blues.

Meanwhile, phrenology is a valuable diagnostic tool and divining locates oil gushers.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/54 "2019-12-10T17:07:54Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I agree that Tempe Jeff is not a reliable judge of proof.

But let’s give credit where credit is due; This is turning into a very entertaining thread.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/55 "2019-12-10T17:30:36Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> \<tangent\>But what gets me is how shit like the Rod Stewart story spread around, pre-internet. Because I heard that while working the diesel can on an asphalt crew, when I was… 11? 12? So 1991-1992 (yes, I was young… it was summer, and my family was very, very poor, so my dad got me a job helping to bring a bit of extra money in, $20/day in cash, under the table).

I first heard the Stewart story back somewhere around 1976, so there was plenty of time for it to get to rural South Dakota. I think it was some time around when Rod started doing disco. The whole story as I heard it was, A plane carrying Rod Stewart had to make an emergency landing when Stewart suffered severe stomach pains. He was rushed to a hospital etc. etc.

The amusing thing of course, was that Rod was considered to be a ladies’ man and was married to[Alana Hamilton](http://mediapunch.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Photolinkmpi/G0000b3zNOQwts9s/I0000amoRPw.DsKU/C0000rVYLDI7i2GQ) and then [Rachel Hunter](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-194161-104181760.jpg?resize=900,600&w=1200) from the time I first heard the rumor until the time **krondys** heard it.

Granted, being married to a beautiful blond is not proof of heterosexual fidelity, but [Rod really likes being married to beautiful blonds.](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rod-stewart-mothers-photo)

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**Author:** ![Othersider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cab0a1/32.png) [@Othersider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Othersider)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/56 "2019-12-10T19:45:57Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I can think of two things wrong with the title of _Naked Lunch_.

At _least_ two things wrong with that title.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/57 "2019-12-10T20:12:55Z")

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> [@RioRico](#):
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> Those fellows waking in cold water in a hotel bathtub, with scars where their kidneys were removed.

Shows what you know, this has happened to me three times already.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/58 "2019-12-10T20:16:00Z")

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Oh, I got another one. It is widely believed that chess pie is pecan pie without the nuts.

At least, this is what I was told by everyone when I brought a chess pie to a recent party.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/59 "2019-12-10T20:44:28Z")

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Per Wikipedia - “The law of primacy in persuasion, otherwise known as a primacy effect, as postulated by Frederick Hansen Lund in 1925 holds that the side of an issue presented first will have greater effectiveness in persuasion than the side presented subsequently.” I believe this is particularly true when one already has strong feelings about an issue. The Michael Brown shooting being a prime example.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-accepted-as-true-despite-proven-false-news/844492/60 "2019-12-11T06:45:05Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Shows what you know, this has happened to me three times already.

Overachiever.

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