# Generally speaking, how many masculine groups/cutulres are there?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 10, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579 "2018-02-10T08:43:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/1 "2018-02-10T08:43:02Z")

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There is gangster, cowboy, soldiers/military nerds, MMA bros, frat boys, metrosexuals, chavs, Hunter-and-gatherers, MRAs, etc  
I am missing anything relavant?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/2 "2018-02-10T08:47:39Z")

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What you are asking for is waaaaay to vague and open to interpretation and opinion to get a solid, factual answer.

Having said that, there are traditionally [7 broad categories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_People#Original_seven_members).

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/3 "2018-02-10T08:55:59Z")

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Generally speaking, I’d say there are either eight, or 74,982. According to how narrowly you define them.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/4 "2018-02-10T08:56:33Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> What you are asking for is waaaaay to vague and open to interpretation and opinion to get a solid, factual answer.
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> Having said that, there are traditionally [7 broad categories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_People#Original_seven_members).

And the examples i listed weren’t probably good examples either.  
Interesting to see construction worker in there.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/5 "2018-02-10T08:57:43Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Generally speaking, I’d say there are either eight, or 74,982

Did I list some good examples in your book?

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/6 "2018-02-10T09:10:22Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Generally speaking, I’d say there are either eight, or 74,982. According to how narrowly you define them.

And well everything grows too. The reason I narrowly define them is just cause I am not too sure exactly how they go and change over time and of course don’t know the exact number of them either.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/7 "2018-02-10T09:30:28Z")

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I am listing whatever I can think off  
Let’s see

Biker, punk, street racers, classic gentleman, DIYers, basketballers, skaters, ninjas, male feminists, bodybuilders, etc

I am defining too narrow? Please let me know

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/8 "2018-02-10T12:17:49Z")

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Dad, son, grandfather, brother, alive, dead, interested in this ridiculous question, not interested in this ridiculous question. As to what you’re missing I’m sure I couldn’t say.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/9 "2018-02-10T14:05:34Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> And well everything grows too. The reason I narrowly define them is just cause I am not too sure exactly how they go and change over time and of course don’t know the exact number of them either.

Lets assume for a minute there is an actual answer to this nonsensical question. What would you do with that information? What would it tell you about masculinity?

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/10 "2018-02-10T14:18:20Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Lets assume for a minute there is an actual answer to this nonsensical question. What would you do with that information? What would it tell you about masculinity?

Haven’t you ever noticed what large percentage of people are male?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/11 "2018-02-10T17:22:33Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Biker, punk, street racers, classic gentleman, DIYers, basketballers, skaters, ninjas, male feminists, bodybuilders, etc
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> I am defining too narrow? Please let me know

Your list and definition falls into a category known as “[not even wrong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong).”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/12 "2018-02-10T17:34:55Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> I am listing whatever I can think off

Since this is not a factual question, and probably not even answerable in any reasonable way, let’s move this to IMHO.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/13 "2018-02-10T17:36:29Z")

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Suppose that you say that “soldiers” is an example of a masculine culture. Is that the same culture as “marines”, “sailors”, and “airmen”? Or maybe those should all be lumped together as one “military” culture? But then, if we’re lumping, we could say that “masculine” as a whole is a culture. Or maybe we should cut it finer, and say that “infantry”, “artillery”, “cavalry”, and “logistics” are all different cultures. Are officers and enlisted the same culture? Active duty, reserves, and National Guard?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/14 "2018-02-10T17:40:26Z")

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Are you worried about your own masculinity? You have brought this up before.  
Do have relationships with your Father, uncle or Grandfather? Or a trusted mentor?  
I think you need to seek out this kind of relationship. Maybe a school counselor could get you involved in a big brother type group. Our local school hires mentors to involved themselves in young mens lives who are without males in their home life.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/15 "2018-02-10T17:45:06Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Suppose that you say that “soldiers” is an example of a masculine culture. Is that the same culture as “marines”, “sailors”, and “airmen”? Or maybe those should all be lumped together as one “military” culture? But then, if we’re lumping, we could say that “masculine” as a whole is a culture. Or maybe we should cut it finer, and say that “infantry”, “artillery”, “cavalry”, and “logistics” are all different cultures. Are officers and enlisted the same culture? Active duty, reserves, and National Guard?

And then there’s that pesky little problem of females in the military. Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/16 "2018-02-10T18:01:23Z")

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Are drag queens a “masculine” culture? How about butch lesbians?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/17 "2018-02-10T18:32:44Z")

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Transsexuals? There is a never ending ammt. of people you could put the term masculinity on.  
I think the OPs query is trying box up and categorise obvious male-ness. It is not nearly so simple.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/18 "2018-02-10T19:10:04Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Suppose that you say that “soldiers” is an example of a masculine culture. Is that the same culture as “marines”, “sailors”, and “airmen”? Or maybe those should all be lumped together as one “military” culture? But then, if we’re lumping, we could say that “masculine” as a whole is a culture. Or maybe we should cut it finer, and say that “infantry”, “artillery”, “cavalry”, and “logistics” are all different cultures. Are officers and enlisted the same culture? Active duty, reserves, and National Guard?

And are the militaries of different countries different cultures? I don’t expect the same 'tude from a paraca as from a legionario (and I think both are still exclusively male), but neither of those words tell anything to the immensse majority of non-Spaniards.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/19 "2018-02-10T19:13:23Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Suppose that you say that “soldiers” is an example of a masculine culture. Is that the same culture as “marines”, “sailors”, and “airmen”? Or maybe those should all be lumped together as one “military” culture? But then, if we’re lumping, we could say that “masculine” as a whole is a culture. Or maybe we should cut it finer, and say that “infantry”, “artillery”, “cavalry”, and “logistics” are all different cultures. Are officers and enlisted the same culture? Active duty, reserves, and National Guard?

There are subcultures for that matter, yes.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/20 "2018-02-10T19:15:38Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Are you worried about your own masculinity? You have brought this up before.  
> Do have relationships with your Father, uncle or Grandfather? Or a trusted mentor?  
> I think you need to seek out this kind of relationship. Maybe a school counselor could get you involved in a big brother type group. Our local school hires mentors to involved themselves in young mens lives who are without males in their home life.

Maybe that could play a role, but nah. I just love studying cultures, subcultures and social groups from time to time.

And I been studying masculinity as in the various ideas, types, cultures and definitions of masculinity that the world has to offer for months now.

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