# Generally speaking, how many masculine groups/cutulres are there? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 10, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579 "2018-02-10T08:43:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/81 "2018-02-12T02:22:48Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > What about vagabonds, vagrants, and drifters? Gutterpups and floaters? Deadbeats and panhandlers? Not to mention derelicts, squeegee men, beachcombers, ne’er-do-wells, mendicants, scroungers, and down-and-outers. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/82 "2018-02-12T02:23:55Z")
I believe the definitive list of groups is: sportos motorheads geeks sluts bloods wastoids dweebies dickheads ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/83 "2018-02-12T02:30:18Z")
Are we allowed to call people “mendicants” on this board!? ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/84 "2018-02-12T02:55:26Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Are we allowed to call people “mendicants” on this board!? The hell is that? ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/85 "2018-02-12T02:57:59Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > I believe the definitive list of groups is: > > sportos > motorheads > geeks > sluts > bloods > wastoids > dweebies > dickheads 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/86 "2018-02-12T03:12:38Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Not to mention derelicts, squeegee men, beachcombers, ne’er-do-wells, mendicants, scroungers, and down-and-outers. Yessir ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/87 "2018-02-12T03:52:44Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Not to mention derelicts, squeegee men, beachcombers, ne’er-do-wells, mendicants, scroungers, and down-and-outers. And gamers o;\* ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/88 "2018-02-12T04:06:55Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Well if you want a big ass confession sorrouding my feeling of insecurity towards my masculinity, here will go something > > WARNING: The confession you are about to be given may sound rude, ignorant and even racist for that matter. > So, I am lucky I even come from a Latin American background, if I was born here in the US, I think my insecurities would be much worse. I am basically a light-skin latino to some. Anyways, now my urges to re-embrace my Latin American side are stronger than ever. Now to explain why that it is, I know not all white American dudes are like this, but I feel like the more I keep acknowledging that I am not even brown, maroon, etc for that matter, the more I just get insecure about it. > > Why is that? Because now I see that a lot of white guys are the most insecure ethnic group out there[At least here in America], now most just get called betas, white knights, cucks, nerds, neckbeard, micropenis holders, etc. > > But I don’t blame them, I blame the social engineering going on > > Is like if I get the feeling I am associated with white American dudes, boom the insecurity feel goes along the way > > And my urges to go to a tanning booth are incredibly strong, but I won’t be going anytime soon. > What I am doing to work on my insecurities? I for one am exercising, trying to look for more responsibilities, accept that not everyone is perfect I guess, get more brave with my risks, etc. > And yes I admit myself that I even view darker skinned man more naturally masculine, not sure why, but I am sure interception of color can go in there with the explanation. > That’s not to say I always think of that as the main image of white men, for gosh sake’s my dad of Mexico is even whiter than me and I view him pretty masculine for most standards[He works as a personal trainer] > > And I had sweaty palms as I typed this. > Yes, is mostly this generation of white men that goes along the image. Because back in the day I am sure as shit I wouldn’t be saying this. When people like David Beckham and Arnold Schwarzenegger are still alive, you got pretty much still good images of white men out there. > > But a kid this generation would most likely think of Logan Paul or Justin Beiber for that matter. How old are you, anyway? Because unless you live in some white bread place like Maine, what you are describing probably has more to do with age than anything. It certainly wouldn’t be an issue in about 95% of California. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/89 "2018-02-12T04:48:25Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > How old are you, anyway? Because unless you live in some white bread place like Maine, what you are describing probably has more to do with age than anything. It certainly wouldn’t be an issue in about 95% of California. 16, at least 3 years older than the minimum registering age in this site. Surprised is even that young ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/90 "2018-02-12T05:21:37Z")
Forget about trying to be what you are not. Embrace your uniqueness. I know these are platitudes. But, you will go farther faster if you learn the trick to do this. Me and my 3 kids are very pale, nearly white blond and pale blue eyes. Kids teased all 3 when they started school. They were called albinos, and androids and aliens. I spent years talking to them and teaching them to embrace their color and unique look. It took time and it was alot of work. I wasn’t about to let color define them or ruin their self-esteem. You have alot of work to do. Have you talked to a trusted adult about your color insecurities? ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/91 "2018-02-12T05:23:23Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Forget about trying to be what you are not. Embrace your uniqueness. I know these are platitudes. But, you will go farther faster if you learn the trick to do this. > Me and my 3 kids are very pale, nearly white blond and pale blue eyes. Kids teased all 3 when they started school. They were called albinos, and androids and aliens. I spent years talking to them and teaching them to embrace their color and unique look. It took but it was alot of work. I wasn’t about to let color define them or ruin their self-esteem. You have alot of work to do. > Have you talked to a trusted adult about your color insecurities? Meh, is not like people really poke shock or fun at me at that for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/92 "2018-02-12T05:56:10Z")
There are exactly 2: - Ones named George - Ones not named George ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/93 "2018-02-12T06:27:16Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > How old are you, anyway? Because unless you live in some white bread place like Maine, what you are describing probably has more to do with age than anything. It certainly wouldn’t be an issue in about 95% of California. I live in central Texas generally speaking and I used to live in a border town for that matter anyways[Laredo] ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/94 "2018-02-12T06:44:17Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I live in central Texas generally speaking and I used to live in a border town for that matter anyways[Laredo] Also, yeah the whitest areas of all also seem the most liberal for that matter which isn’t really a big coincidence. But really though, I am like still pretty masculine to be thinking that I am associated with the nerds, geeks, hippies and these other white-centric subcultures. And acknowledging that I have light skin barely gives me a sense of emasculation for that matter. But is getting there. If anything not having been raised by my dad which I mentioned countless of times and just not having quite an active lifestyle which i am working to get play much bigger roles. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/95 "2018-02-12T10:15:45Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > And acknowledging that I have light skin barely gives me a sense of emasculation for that matter. But is getting there. Truly, you are a giant amongst men. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/96 "2018-02-12T13:13:15Z")
So…you’re insecure in your masculinity due to the lightness of your skin colour? But you’re not getting teased or shamed, in real life, you’re just cooking all this up in your own head, is that about it? All these coy threads, with all this nonsense wordage spent dancing around your issue with masculinity? Which are all the result of some foolish colour code that exists solely in your sixteen year old psyche. Okay then, good to know. That’s way too foolish a concept to even bother contesting in my book, but I’m wishing you Good Luck, regardless. (Because if you’re this bent out of shape about such a silly piece of self invented nonsense you’re really gonna need it, in my opinion.) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/97 "2018-02-12T13:40:32Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Also, yeah the whitest areas of all also seem the most liberal for that matter which isn’t really a big coincidence. > But really though, I am like still pretty masculine to be thinking that I am associated with the nerds, geeks, hippies and these other white-centric subcultures. > > And acknowledging that I have light skin barely gives me a sense of emasculation for that matter. But is getting there. > If anything not having been raised by my dad which I mentioned countless of times and just not having quite an active lifestyle which i am working to get play much bigger roles. I think these are all serious personal issues that are much better addressed in private with a therapist rather than on a public message board. ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_K5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@Phil\_K5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phil_K5)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/98 "2018-02-12T13:49:41Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > There is gangster, cowboy, soldiers/military nerds, MMA bros, frat boys, metrosexuals, chavs, Hunter-and-gatherers, MRAs, etc > I am missing anything relavant? Most seem to be associated with homosexuals - yet heterosexuals are blamed for them… ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/99 "2018-02-12T14:09:17Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I think these are all serious personal issues that are much better addressed in private with a therapist rather than on a public message board. Amen. Especially if you want results that will last (ie, strategies for life-long coping skills). ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/100 "2018-02-12T14:24:01Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > So…you’re insecure in your masculinity due to the lightness of your skin colour? But you’re not getting teased or shamed, in real life, you’re just cooking all this up in your own head, is that about it? > > All these coy threads, with all this nonsense wordage spent dancing around your issue with masculinity? Which are all the result of some foolish colour code that exists solely in your sixteen year old psyche. > > Okay then, good to know. That’s way too foolish a concept to even bother contesting in my book, but I’m wishing you Good Luck, regardless. (Because if you’re this bent out of shape about such a silly piece of self invented nonsense you’re really gonna need it, in my opinion.) Right, and well I mentioned that the image of white men is only flawed if you look at it from one way or another. And that’s not to say not other ethnicities don’t have some effimanacy going on, you want effimanacy on the black side? You got Rupaul You want effimnacy with Asian dudes? Look at Japan this video says it all [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o8Rq92mLIbs/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-A4ACoAKKAgwIABABGFAgXyhlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCqXS6QV1T4nmDohOTqrdVK1SWfsQ "Japanese men discover their feminine side") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Rq92mLIbs) Then for the Native Americans, Idk I do know I saw a Native American dude once wear nail polish, put on some lotion on his legs and wearing high heels lol. It was in Austin TX at SSXW Gaming Convention. So yeah, as much as the media and even the general public want to make it out to be is just purely white men who are getting demonized, pussified and disempowered, you got other races of men being just as pussified. Of course white guys are gonna be the biggest target no doubt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579.md?page=6)