# Generally speaking, how many masculine groups/cutulres are there? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 10, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579 "2018-02-10T08:43:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/101 "2018-02-12T14:34:13Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > So yeah, as much as the media and even the general public want to make it out to be is just purely white men who are getting demonized, pussified and disempowered, you got other races of men being just as pussified. Actually, it appears that whatever you’re describing is mostly happening inside your head. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/102 "2018-02-12T14:39:30Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > So…you’re insecure in your masculinity due to the lightness of your skin colour? But you’re not getting teased or shamed, in real life, you’re just cooking all this up in your own head, is that about it? > > All these coy threads, with all this nonsense wordage spent dancing around your issue with masculinity? Which are all the result of some foolish colour code that exists solely in your sixteen year old psyche. > > Okay then, good to know. That’s way too foolish a concept to even bother contesting in my book, but I’m wishing you Good Luck, regardless. (Because if you’re this bent out of shape about such a silly piece of self invented nonsense you’re really gonna need it, in my opinion.) Is one of the factors, and I say is not much of a factor to me. Is being made out to me with the way the social climate currently is in America. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/103 "2018-02-12T14:40:42Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Actually, it appears that whatever you’re describing is mostly happening inside your head. How though? Yes I do have a tendency to exaggerate things sometimes, but how is what I am describing far from reality when I even provided some good examples? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/104 "2018-02-12T14:49:54Z")
By pussified, we can only assume you’re referring to some silly standard that you dreamt up, because no such reality exists. You wanna be a macho man? Have at it, ain’t nothing standing in your way! Get yourself some tattoos, take some steroids, get into some fistfights, be obnoxious to some women, whatever it takes to make you feel manly. But this whole theory you’ve imagined about skin colour/ethnicity and pussification is just _your_ teenage identity issue being broadcast loud. You really should consider seeing a therapist about your issues, you’re young, they can help you back to more sensical thinking regarding your masculinity. If you let this nonsense you’re convincing yourself of, take root, in time, nothing will be able to shift you from your delusion. Then you’ll really be in a bad way! No one is pussifying anyone. Skin colour is not a determinant in machoness, or manliness. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/105 "2018-02-12T14:53:54Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > By pussified, we can only assume you’re referring to some silly standard that you dreamt up, because no such reality exists. > > You wanna be a macho man? Have at it, ain’t nothing standing in your way! Get yourself some tattoos, take some steroids, get into some fistfights, be obnoxious to some women, whatever it takes to make you feel manly. > > But this whole theory you’ve imagined about skin colour/ethnicity and pussification is just _your_ teenage identity issue being broadcast loud. You really should consider seeing a therapist about your issues, you’re young, they can help you back to more sensical thinking regarding your masculinity. If you let this nonsense you’re convincing yourself of, take root, in time, nothing will be able to shift you from your delusion. Then you’ll really be in a bad way! > > No one is pussifying anyone. Skin colour is not a determinant in machoness, or manliness. I do want to increase my masculine and find a way to do it without being overly masculine too. I am considering joining a combat sport for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/106 "2018-02-12T14:58:08Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I do want to increase my masculine and find a way to do it without being overly masculine too. I am considering joining a combat sport for that matter. I do also agree race/ethnicity/skin color doesn’t really determine your masculinity, that’s why I gave examples for each side. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/107 "2018-02-12T15:17:16Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I do want to increase my masculine and find a way to do it without being overly masculine too. I am considering joining a combat sport for that matter. Combat sports don’t equal masculine. Be yourself and learn to be comfortable in your own skin. Again, it appears to be something in your head and not an external verifiable standard. > [@Luciano700](#): > > I do also agree race/ethnicity/skin color doesn’t really determine your masculinity, that’s why I gave examples for each side. So it’s irrelevant and yet you wrote 1000’s of words on showing that something you brought up doesn’t exist? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/108 "2018-02-12T15:49:17Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I do also agree race/ethnicity/skin color doesn’t really determine your masculinity, that’s why I gave examples for each side. > [@Luciano700](#): > > I do want to increase my masculine and find a way to do it without being overly masculine too. I am considering joining a combat sport for that matter. Who are you trying to convince and what are you trying to convince them of? > [@Luciano700](#): > > Is one of the factors, and I say is not much of a factor to me. Is being made out to me with the way the social climate currently is in America. FFS. When you start a sentence with an “Is”, it’s normally meant to be framed as a question using “?” as punctuation. It’s increasingly difficult to read your posts and know whether you’re asking a question or not. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/109 "2018-02-12T16:46:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Who are you trying to convince and what are you trying to convince them of? > > FFS. When you start a sentence with an “Is”, it’s normally meant to be framed as a question using “?” as punctuation. It’s increasingly difficult to read your posts and know whether you’re asking a question or not. Look, English is not my original language And hey, I will admit though there is quite a connection i can use a lot of evidence to prove both things, but don’t really want to argue. That’s why I am trying to instead improve my physique. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/110 "2018-02-12T16:56:08Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Combat sports don’t equal masculine. Be yourself and learn to be comfortable in your own skin. Again, it appears to be something in your head and not an external verifiable standard. > So it’s irrelevant and yet you wrote 1000’s of words on showing that something you brought up doesn’t exist? Because is not really that far off of a theory. Yes, I know that’s not the case. However, they are a great way to increase masculine energy. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/111 "2018-02-12T17:05:23Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > However, they are a great way to increase masculine energy. Define “masculine energy”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/112 "2018-02-12T17:10:06Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Look, English is not my original language I understand. But now that you know, don’t start sentences with “Is” unless you’re asking questions. > [@Luciano700](#): > > That’s why I am trying to instead improve my physique. Takes more than muscles to make a man. I still think you would benefit from some therapy to work through your issues, if that’s an available option for you. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/113 "2018-02-12T17:13:07Z")
There is nothing wrong with being gay, Also, the only people afraid of being considered feminine are those who somehow think that being a woman is shameful. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/114 "2018-02-12T17:14:05Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Define “masculine energy”. qualities as assertiveness; confidence; energy; incisiveness; determination; strength of mind and body; stamina; nobility; self-sacrifice and accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/115 "2018-02-12T17:16:01Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > There is nothing wrong with being gay, > > Also, the only people afraid of being considered feminine are those who somehow think that being a woman is shameful. Agreed, and I say you need a great balance of qualities from both sides. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/116 "2018-02-12T17:16:02Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Define “masculine energy”. [Hanz & Franz](https://youtu.be/VhOrmr4qaqw?t=26). ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/117 "2018-02-12T17:24:10Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > qualities as assertiveness; confidence; energy; incisiveness; determination; strength of mind and body; stamina; nobility; self-sacrifice and accomplishment. So you’re a [Patrick Wanis](https://www.patrickwanis.com/difference-feminine-masculine-energy/) fan, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/118 "2018-02-12T17:24:54Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I understand. But now that you know, don’t start sentences with “Is” unless you’re asking questions. > > Takes more than muscles to make a man. > > I still think you would benefit from some therapy to work through your issues, if that’s an available option for you. That’s totally cool with me. I have therapy in like 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/119 "2018-02-12T17:27:27Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > That’s totally cool with me. I have therapy in like 2 weeks. I hope you find it helpful. I wish you the best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579/120 "2018-02-12T17:46:17Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > So you’re a [Patrick Wanis](https://www.patrickwanis.com/difference-feminine-masculine-energy/) fan, eh? Ah, that probably explains a lot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/generally-speaking-how-many-masculine-groups-cutulres-are-there/808579.md?page=7)